Notices
NA Builds Specifically for naturally aspirated builds & projects with Cams, Pistons Rods, Heads, Valves, etc

2006 350z NA Build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 5, 2013 | 06:18 PM
  #1  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default 2006 350z NA Build

Before I even get started i have done a lot of reading and i have searched for the answer to my question.
i am doing a rebuild on my motor since I had the oil consumption problem.
and i decided to go NA because it is more reliable.
here is my parts list
ARP Head Bolts
Eagle Rods
ACL main bearing
ACL rod bearing
Cometic Head Gasket
CP pistons 11:1
DC headers
test pipes
HKS exhaust
plenum spacer
short ram intake
(due to a last minute need for summer school can't afford cams rite now)
my question is do i need a tune?
and approx how much HP would i gain from this set up ?
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:14 PM
  #2  
TuckerE36's Avatar
TuckerE36
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 833
Likes: 7
From: Dallas, TX
Default

I would buy cams instead of the headers. Then get it tuned.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2013 | 06:30 AM
  #3  
seymore4's Avatar
seymore4
Professional
Premier Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 79
From: West coast
Default

You're changing the compression ratio of the engine with aftermarket pistons... you really have to ask if you need a tune??
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2013 | 07:16 AM
  #4  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default

Originally Posted by seymore4
You're changing the compression ratio of the engine with aftermarket pistons... you really have to ask if you need a tune??
maybe i should have clarified do i need a tune rite away. can i still drive the car around without doing damage to the car until i get a tune in approx 2 weeks.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2013 | 07:28 AM
  #5  
seymore4's Avatar
seymore4
Professional
Premier Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 79
From: West coast
Default

Originally Posted by bfrank757
maybe i should have clarified do i need a tune rite away. can i still drive the car around without doing damage to the car until i get a tune in approx 2 weeks.
Gotcha As long as you're keeping the stock injectors it should run fine. Also, I would seriously consider waiting until you can afford the cams to do it, they're already going to be out and will really help. Guarantee that you'll wish you had and end up putting them in later
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2013 | 09:13 AM
  #6  
ksuberk54's Avatar
ksuberk54
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 3
From: Not here
Default

You need the Mrev2 with the plenum spacer. Just the spacer won't do anything for you if you have an 06.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2013 | 12:07 PM
  #7  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default

Originally Posted by seymore4
Gotcha As long as you're keeping the stock injectors it should run fine. Also, I would seriously consider waiting until you can afford the cams to do it, they're already going to be out and will really help. Guarantee that you'll wish you had and end up putting them in later
yeah i completely agree but due to certain "military" circumstances i can't for at least 60 days
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2013 | 12:45 PM
  #8  
seymore4's Avatar
seymore4
Professional
Premier Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 79
From: West coast
Default

The car will still be there in 60 days...
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 07:24 AM
  #9  
0jiggy0's Avatar
0jiggy0
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 7,418
Likes: 13
From: Long Island, NY
Default

IMO doing a build like this without cams is going full retard, and we ll know the rules and regulations going full retard.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 07:48 AM
  #10  
Pholicious's Avatar
Pholicious
Registered User
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 364
Likes: 0
From: Moncton, Newbrunswick
Default

Yes you need a tune... that's where your gonna pick up power anyway

Junk those DC headers get long tubes or the Z1 momentum headers

Leave your 06 airbox on its the best intake for the car, just put a k/n panel in it

If your not getting cams for n/a build that's a big part of a n/a build

My guess would be around 300whp

With all this aside screw n/a builds go get a bp kit, run haltech and get a good tuner to tune it. Your gonna get bored with n/a power of a vq35

Last edited by Pholicious; Jun 9, 2013 at 07:50 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 03:37 PM
  #11  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default

Originally Posted by seymore4
The car will still be there in 60 days...
ended up getting the cams
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 03:43 PM
  #12  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default

Originally Posted by Pholicious
Yes you need a tune... that's where your gonna pick up power anyway

Junk those DC headers get long tubes or the Z1 momentum headers

Leave your 06 airbox on its the best intake for the car, just put a k/n panel in it

If your not getting cams for n/a build that's a big part of a n/a build

My guess would be around 300whp

With all this aside screw n/a builds go get a bp kit, run haltech and get a good tuner to tune it. Your gonna get bored with n/a power of a vq35
yeah man i ended up getting the cams i got some JWT S2 Cams . I have to have HFC so long tubes are out of the question. and i've never heard that about the intake. and honestly i don't want a turbo or SC it's too much maintenance for me.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 04:01 PM
  #13  
e30cabrio's Avatar
e30cabrio
350Z-holic
Premier Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 46,289
Likes: 2,686
From: Hear
Default

I have P&P built heads with +1mm Manley valves JWT S7 cams and springs that most likely will be coming off my stroker that spun it's bearings (assuming the builder refuses to fix it) I also have an mrev2 & spacer.

You can see my build here:
https://my350z.com/forum/na-builds/5...-na-build.html
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 04:18 PM
  #14  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default

Originally Posted by e30cabrio
I have P&P built heads with +1mm Manley valves JWT S7 cams and springs that most likely will be coming off my stroker that spun it's bearings (assuming the builder refuses to fix it) I also have an mrev2 & spacer.

You can see my build here:
https://my350z.com/forum/na-builds/5...-na-build.html
HA your build is one of the first ones i really started to read
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 07:03 PM
  #15  
willyumq's Avatar
willyumq
New Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: lomita, ca
Default

op, did you consider long tubes with moterdynes catted xyz pipe?
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2013 | 04:53 AM
  #16  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default

Originally Posted by willyumq
op, did you consider long tubes with moterdynes catted xyz pipe?
i've never even heard of those until now
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2013 | 05:00 AM
  #17  
e30cabrio's Avatar
e30cabrio
350Z-holic
Premier Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 46,289
Likes: 2,686
From: Hear
Default

Jet hot coated Crawfords.

In the Marketplace. Much better than DC.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2013 | 05:17 PM
  #18  
KA24DE's Avatar
KA24DE
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 363
Likes: 3
From: FLA
Default

Shorty headers are garbage - do it right, or don't bother.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:11 PM
  #19  
bfrank757's Avatar
bfrank757
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: all over - Military
Default

Originally Posted by KA24DE
Shorty headers are garbage - do it right, or don't bother.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2013 | 09:34 PM
  #20  
terrasmak's Avatar
terrasmak
Super Moderator
MY350Z.COM
Premier Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 29,123
Likes: 2,400
From: Sin City
Default

Ditch the head studs, save money and get HR head bolts.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:23 AM.