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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 07:37 AM
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so I want to upgrade to the tomei 272 cams, i know I have to upgrade the valve train also but what is everything I need to do to make them work?
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 02:38 PM
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If you are thinking of the 272 hi lift cams(11.3, 11mm lift), Tomei recommends 1mm deeper valve reliefs in your pistons. The 10.8mm lift cams ahould be good. You'll need better valve springs. If you are able, use the OEM valve retainers. They are forged aluminum and lighter than Ti retainers. If you need to swap lifters, look into getting the DLC lifters for a little less friction (the DE lifters are perfectly fine though if they are in spec).
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 02:47 PM
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If you are thinking of the 272 hi lift cams(11.3, 11mm lift), Tomei recommends 1mm deeper valve reliefs in your pistons. The 10.8mm lift cams ahould be good. You'll need better valve springs. If you are able, use the OEM valve retainers. They are forged aluminum and lighter than Ti retainers. If you need to swap lifters, look into getting the DLC lifters for a little less friction (the DE lifters are perfectly fine though if they are in spec).
well I was ganna go with the 10.5 I believe they have and are you sure I do t need to swap retainers? I was just ganna upgrade the whole valve train
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There is no sense wasting good money. Pick up a set of vq35HR valve springs and use the stock retainers. What other mods do you have or plan to have?
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There is no sense wasting good money. Pick up a set of vq35HR valve springs and use the stock retainers. What other mods do you have or plan to have?
Well I just got done talking to my friend and we might end up just doing forged internals along with the cams so saying that I might as well upgrade the full valvetrain right?
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If you got the cash, by all means.
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Originally Posted by dnash
If you got the cash, by all means.
tax return helps lol and I wldnt mind saving up the extra cash to do a full build super excited tho with what ever I go with
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dnash:

Just out of curiosity, I was considering the JWT S1 cams, they are 10.87mm EX/IN, so I presume I'd be ok (2004 Z) + the springs.
Also just so I can look, what specific cams are the Tomei ones as they seem to have many.
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Just out of curiosity, I was considering the JWT S1 cams, they are 10.87mm EX/IN, so I presume I'd be ok (2004 Z) + the springs.
Also just so I can look, what specific cams are the Tomei ones as they seem to have many.
I was looking at their 272 10.5 in.ex cams and I've heard any of their cams bigger than 264 they reccomend their valve spring kit
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Originally Posted by FransLZ33
I was looking at their 272 10.5 in.ex cams and I've heard any of their cams bigger than 264 they reccomend their valve spring kit
Yup I'd be doing that regardless, I'm just looking to know if that's all that is required without other problems
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Originally Posted by RobPhoboS
Yup I'd be doing that regardless, I'm just looking to know if that's all that is required without other problems
As far as I've seen just springs and retainers
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JWT makes a better grind than Tomei does, I would talk to them first.
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Originally Posted by KA24DE
JWT makes a better grind than Tomei does, I would talk to them first.
What about Brian Crower ?

Specs:
Adv. duration: 264 in / 264 ex
Dur @ 0.050 : 222 in/ 222 ex
Lift (in) : 0.426"/ 0.426"
Lift (mm): 10.82/ 10.82

Looks comparable to the JWT S1 set, so for me it's either the BC's or JWT.

The JWT C2 set probably have a bit too much lift for the stock pistons I guess (11.58mm).


Oh, and the spring kits - I'm not sure which to get:
https://www.z1motorsports.com/engine...it-p-2139.html

https://www.z1motorsports.com/engine...it-p-5173.html

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