Newbee here. Do you think there will be to many 350z on the road?
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Newbee here. Do you think there will be to many 350z on the road?
I really like the car, at first i reallly didn't like it to much. Now I do. I'm scared that there will be a ton of them on the roads. Do you think there will be a ton of them like mustangs, civics, accords, etc.. I don't think so but it could happen.
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For the first two years, no. Trying to compare, VW hopes to sell 30,000 Bugs this year (but the sales of beatles mind you is WAY down). Audi TT's aperantly have been selling very well but I rarely see them in my area. I wouldn't worry, its a non-practical, fairly small, 2-seat, expensive to ensure sports car, not your cheap, easy to ensure, safe, reliable, practical Civic. Plus, where I live, there are THOUSANDS of BMWs, but I know someone who has a nice blue 330Ci and gets still catches peoples eye.
Hopefully there will be a ton of these cars around cuz that means there will be a lot more aftermarket support for them! The demand for aftermarket parts will drive the supply, so the more cars the better. Look at how much aftermarket there is for Hondas, and they aren't even performance oriented cars!
If you are worred about seeing a Z on every corner, think about it this way. Nissan is planning for around 30K cars a year imported into the US. Toyota sells around 500K camerys a year. Yes you see camerys everywhere, but the Z is slated for less than 10% of that volumn per year. There won't be many around.
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(Don't slam me for the camry numbers, it may not be accurate. Its what I remember reading in an articla about a year ago. Being over 40 makes data retreival from more that 30 minutes prior challenging).
If you are worred about seeing a Z on every corner, think about it this way. Nissan is planning for around 30K cars a year imported into the US. Toyota sells around 500K camerys a year. Yes you see camerys everywhere, but the Z is slated for less than 10% of that volumn per year. There won't be many around.
Alan
(Don't slam me for the camry numbers, it may not be accurate. Its what I remember reading in an articla about a year ago. Being over 40 makes data retreival from more that 30 minutes prior challenging).
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(approx. figs)
mustang $23-25k
accord $21-24k
civic $18-20k
celica $19-23k
350z $27-35k
dont forget that money doesnt grow on trees, PLUS like Brad4rdHay metioned, these cars are terribly impracticle. Toyota Mr2 are pretty cheap, but I dont see may of those. And 330i are expensive and they are as common as bird **** around here.
As an alternate point of view: I say the more the merry, cause these cars will ONLY be for the coolest people on earth (note the relative lack of flames on this board) and there wont be any male head buting lke what happens with many other brands. Trust me, if it turns out that 2 years from now everyone has one, youll be smiling ALOT...SEE!!!
mustang $23-25k
accord $21-24k
civic $18-20k
celica $19-23k
350z $27-35k
dont forget that money doesnt grow on trees, PLUS like Brad4rdHay metioned, these cars are terribly impracticle. Toyota Mr2 are pretty cheap, but I dont see may of those. And 330i are expensive and they are as common as bird **** around here.
As an alternate point of view: I say the more the merry, cause these cars will ONLY be for the coolest people on earth (note the relative lack of flames on this board) and there wont be any male head buting lke what happens with many other brands. Trust me, if it turns out that 2 years from now everyone has one, youll be smiling ALOT...SEE!!!
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will be about as popular as the vette .. there are 30k vettes roughly produced a year and there will be this many Z's.
Just think of the 280 million plus people in America 30,000 will have Z's .. wooptiedoo
Just think of the 280 million plus people in America 30,000 will have Z's .. wooptiedoo
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I thought about it too, it's not very practical its a 2 seater, pluse it ranges from 26-34k. And its a sports car, and most people who buy sports car like these ones are younger.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Alang
Hopefully there will be a ton of these cars around cuz that means there will be a lot more aftermarket support for them! The demand for aftermarket parts will drive the supply, so the more cars the better. Look at how much aftermarket there is for Hondas, and they aren't even performance oriented cars!
If you are worred about seeing a Z on every corner, think about it this way. Nissan is planning for around 30K cars a year imported into the US. Toyota sells around 500K camerys a year. Yes you see camerys everywhere, but the Z is slated for less than 10% of that volumn per year. There won't be many around.
Alan
(Don't slam me for the camry numbers, it may not be accurate. Its what I remember reading in an articla about a year ago. Being over 40 makes data retreival from more that 30 minutes prior challenging). [/QUOT
With a target of 30,000 Zs a year, you are not going to see one around every corner ever, unless the Z runs all of the other sports or sporty cars out of the business. I don't think that will happen because there is more diversity in the market than when the 240 hit the U.S. Its primary competitors were the low end European, mostly British sports cars, who hadn't updated their cars, factories, or workforces to meet the Zs challenge. When they tried to compete in the US market, they were outclassed completely by a sports car that was comfortable, faster and more reliable by a vast margin. The affordable British sports car disappeared in the US market.
The 350Z has exploited a segment similar to the old 240, but the competition is modern, reliable in most cases and capable of fielding challengers in the next few years. I think the Z will be able to have this market segment it has created for several years, if their other cars continue to compete sucessfully, and they have the financial resources to update and improve the 350.
I'm not sure they can exceed 50,000 cars a year, if they can sell that many at all in a calendar year, but they don't have to if the worldwide revival of new Nissan products does well. The Z will continue to be their "halo" car, even if a new GTR comes our way. The GTR will not be as affordable and will sell in smaller numbers. If they can sell 30-50,000 350Zs a year, I believe they will be happy.
These numbers are close to the Corvette in its market segment; it sells around 30-35,000 per year and the Z does not compete directly with the Vette and you don't see one around every corner. Mercs, BMW, Lexus co-exist with Camrys, Accords, SUVs and other fauna in my neighborhood but, we don't have a Corvette and I live in a Convenant area with its own green belt, small creek, etc. , your typical middle- upper middle class neighborhood. My 350Z will be the first in my neighborhood, like my MR2T was the first, until a family down the block bought a black one, mine was white. Also, I live in a college town, and students with the cash drive more sports cars now that some of them have tired of their SUVs and insurance rates aren't quite as outrageous(I think?).
Boomer--I agree with Alan in 660,000 words, sorry.
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Hopefully there will be a ton of these cars around cuz that means there will be a lot more aftermarket support for them! The demand for aftermarket parts will drive the supply, so the more cars the better. Look at how much aftermarket there is for Hondas, and they aren't even performance oriented cars!
If you are worred about seeing a Z on every corner, think about it this way. Nissan is planning for around 30K cars a year imported into the US. Toyota sells around 500K camerys a year. Yes you see camerys everywhere, but the Z is slated for less than 10% of that volumn per year. There won't be many around.
Alan
(Don't slam me for the camry numbers, it may not be accurate. Its what I remember reading in an articla about a year ago. Being over 40 makes data retreival from more that 30 minutes prior challenging). [/QUOT
With a target of 30,000 Zs a year, you are not going to see one around every corner ever, unless the Z runs all of the other sports or sporty cars out of the business. I don't think that will happen because there is more diversity in the market than when the 240 hit the U.S. Its primary competitors were the low end European, mostly British sports cars, who hadn't updated their cars, factories, or workforces to meet the Zs challenge. When they tried to compete in the US market, they were outclassed completely by a sports car that was comfortable, faster and more reliable by a vast margin. The affordable British sports car disappeared in the US market.
The 350Z has exploited a segment similar to the old 240, but the competition is modern, reliable in most cases and capable of fielding challengers in the next few years. I think the Z will be able to have this market segment it has created for several years, if their other cars continue to compete sucessfully, and they have the financial resources to update and improve the 350.
I'm not sure they can exceed 50,000 cars a year, if they can sell that many at all in a calendar year, but they don't have to if the worldwide revival of new Nissan products does well. The Z will continue to be their "halo" car, even if a new GTR comes our way. The GTR will not be as affordable and will sell in smaller numbers. If they can sell 30-50,000 350Zs a year, I believe they will be happy.
These numbers are close to the Corvette in its market segment; it sells around 30-35,000 per year and the Z does not compete directly with the Vette and you don't see one around every corner. Mercs, BMW, Lexus co-exist with Camrys, Accords, SUVs and other fauna in my neighborhood but, we don't have a Corvette and I live in a Convenant area with its own green belt, small creek, etc. , your typical middle- upper middle class neighborhood. My 350Z will be the first in my neighborhood, like my MR2T was the first, until a family down the block bought a black one, mine was white. Also, I live in a college town, and students with the cash drive more sports cars now that some of them have tired of their SUVs and insurance rates aren't quite as outrageous(I think?).
Boomer--I agree with Alan in 660,000 words, sorry.
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I believe the first or second year will be the peak for the Z just like the beatle was selling many more in the first two years. There is a pent up demand for this type of car since the 300z, RX-7 and supra dissapeared. The corvette or 330 Ci are nice, but they do not substitute for this type of car. believe it or not I can see the Z pulling people away from the corvette as well at the boxster and the M3. With this economy some people might go for saving $10-30K on a car. Once the new supra and RX-7 come out the Z may stabilize at 20K a year.
I think the C5 is a good example because it sells at 30-35K a year, but it has been out for 5-6 years already, so after the first year there will be 30K Z's vs 180K C5's.
I think the C5 is a good example because it sells at 30-35K a year, but it has been out for 5-6 years already, so after the first year there will be 30K Z's vs 180K C5's.
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Originally posted by stevo
RAI: when are the new RX-7's coming out?
RAI: when are the new RX-7's coming out?
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Too many Zs
Originally posted by rai
I believe the first or second year will be the peak for the Z just like the beatle was selling many more in the first two years. There is a pent up demand for this type of car since the 300z, RX-7 and supra dissapeared. The corvette or 330 Ci are nice, but they do not substitute for this type of car. believe it or not I can see the Z pulling people away from the corvette as well at the boxster and the M3. With this economy some people might go for saving $10-30K on a car. Once the new supra and RX-7 come out the Z may stabilize at 20K a year.
I think the C5 is a good example because it sells at 30-35K a year, but it has been out for 5-6 years already, so after the first year there will be 30K Z's vs 180K C5's.
I believe the first or second year will be the peak for the Z just like the beatle was selling many more in the first two years. There is a pent up demand for this type of car since the 300z, RX-7 and supra dissapeared. The corvette or 330 Ci are nice, but they do not substitute for this type of car. believe it or not I can see the Z pulling people away from the corvette as well at the boxster and the M3. With this economy some people might go for saving $10-30K on a car. Once the new supra and RX-7 come out the Z may stabilize at 20K a year.
I think the C5 is a good example because it sells at 30-35K a year, but it has been out for 5-6 years already, so after the first year there will be 30K Z's vs 180K C5's.
Even if Nissan does end up with 20-25,000 Zs per year, after the rx7s and supras come out, I'm not worried about my investment in the Z because I plan to keep it a long time and will probably put less than 10,000 miles a year on it. I bought my 240 with 73,000 miles on it and kept it for 7 more years and 70,000 miles.
I think we all made a damn good investment in a car we can really enjoy owning and driving for a long time.
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Won't be too Many IMHO
I don't know about you guys but every time I see a Vette, especially the older ones, my head turns to take a look. There are tens of thousands of those cars around. I feel the uniqueness of the Z-car will turn heads for years to come.
I can't wait for the first time I'm driving near a Vette ,or Stang to see their reaction. I have visions of them doing a 180 to come back and take a look.
"I have visions of them doing a 180 to take a look"
I can't wait for the first time I'm driving near a Vette ,or Stang to see their reaction. I have visions of them doing a 180 to come back and take a look.
"I have visions of them doing a 180 to take a look"
1. Yes, there will be lots on the road.
2. I won't care, because I'll be too busy enjoying mine.
Owning a rare car can be a real pain. I've been living with one for three years (check my sig). It is almost more of a headache than its worth...the constant threat of theft, harder to get parts (and they're more expensive)...
2. I won't care, because I'll be too busy enjoying mine.
Owning a rare car can be a real pain. I've been living with one for three years (check my sig). It is almost more of a headache than its worth...the constant threat of theft, harder to get parts (and they're more expensive)...
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