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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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Hi guyz new owner here! for some reason or another last week I got a 2004 silver 350z with 140k miles but couldn't pass up because it only cost me 6k I think I must have been really bored :P

Anyway I was just wondering if anyone is also living in the Princeton NJ area who can recommends a good shop/mechanic to take a look at the car. It runs fine for now and the engine sounds good but the flashing airbag light is really distracting , and the check engine soon light too . I was also worried about the clunking sound when I shift but from what I read I guess it's alright.

At least the Z is easier to learn stick shift on than on my friend's miata
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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that day of a 6k z has arrived, is it clean title?
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 10:45 AM
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Yup, clean no accidents
Just did an airbag light reset per directions on the forums (thanks guys!) and now both the airbag and check engine lights are gone yay!
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 12:40 PM
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Now the trick will be accelerating your learning curve so you'll be able to drive the Z well. Learning to shift a close ratio six-speed gearbox effectively without damaging it is a skill unto itself.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Wow that is very low price.. It's sad that the Z isn't holding the value as much as I wanted.

The tranny in our z is VERY close ratio and is notchy.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Wow that is very low price.. It's sad that the Z isn't holding the value as much as I wanted.

The tranny in our z is VERY close ratio and is notchy.
the Z value is all over the spectrum, so I wouldn't say the value isn't held well.

yes you can get early gen1's for 6k it seems now? with clean title.

06's with under 100k miles are still 10-15k

07-8's are still 14-20k depending on trim and miles

nismo's are 20 and up still.


comparably, a 2004 mustang gt which retailed for same $ as an 04 350z can be picked up for way cheaper.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zsunshinefl
the Z value is all over the spectrum, so I wouldn't say the value isn't held well.

yes you can get early gen1's for 6k it seems now? with clean title.

06's with under 100k miles are still 10-15k

07-8's are still 14-20k depending on trim and miles

nismo's are 20 and up still.


comparably, a 2004 mustang gt which retailed for same $ as an 04 350z can be picked up for way cheaper.
I've tried like hell to sell my 2004.5 touring Z with only 53,000 miles for less then KBB without luck.

Compared to other cars for sure Nissan and the Z holds value better. Another difference is rebates for new cars the mustang generally has some and the 370z never.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Wow that is very low price.. It's sad that the Z isn't holding the value as much as I wanted.

The tranny in our z is VERY close ratio and is notchy.
Ya I got a good deal because the guy was wanting to sell quick. I would have spent more money for lower milage or newer model but this guy was living right next to me so it was doubly nice that I didn't have to drive across the state. Was seriously considering an RSX/TSX/TL for my first car but this lil baby popped up out of nowhere and messed up all my planning .

So what do you guys mean with the tranny being close ratio? How should I drive it? Seeing how much torque/power this thing can output I was planning to go 1->2->4->6. Didn't mind shifting every gear thus far though .

PS: funny story, I stalled at an uphill highway intersection yesterday on my first non-parling lot drive around
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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You will probably stall many more times. It happens.

The transmission is very simple to use and to shift. It is a close ratio but that has nothing to do with the ability to shift cleanly and properly. Just practice and you will be ok.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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You just have to get used to it... For example after I drive my civic and go back to the Z, I will not shift as effective as I normally do.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 04:33 PM
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The clunking when you shift is probably the transmission mount or rear diff bushing. Have them inspect the rear subframe inside and out. They tend to crack.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 08:19 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-ratio_transmission
http://www.5speeds.com/ratios.html

basically, a close ratio transmission has the ratios set up such that the rpms dont differ a lot when shifting from one gear to the next...thats the shortest explanation i can come up with. in a sports car, or a motorcycle (like my ninja), you shift and drop maybe 1500 rpms when going to the next gear (i just picked a number). my bike, stock, would do 87 in first (topped out at 16.5k rpms). 2nd i would drop to 14.5k...so you see, the spread isnt much. on a bike like a harley that has a much lower rev limit, and more torque (and weight!) the gears are much wider ratio. or in my old Altima 5 speed.

thats one thing i noticed when i got my 350. i shift so much more in the thing than i did in my Altima. i dont rev the **** out of mine all the time, especially when the engine and oil arent up to temp. im at 45 mph in 5th. in 50 i go to 6th, and im still at 2000 RPMs. cruising on the highway close to 3k. its ok, i dont mind shifting a lot. LOL
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 05:02 AM
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You just have to get used to it... For example after I drive my civic and go back to the Z, I will not shift as effective as I normally do.
Hmm so the gear ratio for a civic is as follow:
5-Speed Manual Transmission Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.143, 2nd: 1.870, 3rd: 1.235, 4th: 0.949, 5th: 0.727, Reverse: 3.308, Final Drive: 4.294

...and for our Z:
1st -3.794
2nd -2.324
3rd -1.624
4th-1.271
5th -1.000
6th -0.794

The Z's 3rd and the Civic's second are similar, maybe you can redline 1st and go directly to 3rd?
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 05:35 AM
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Welcome and congratulations.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by trivoldus28
Hmm so the gear ratio for a civic is as follow:
5-Speed Manual Transmission Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.143, 2nd: 1.870, 3rd: 1.235, 4th: 0.949, 5th: 0.727, Reverse: 3.308, Final Drive: 4.294

...and for our Z:
1st -3.794
2nd -2.324
3rd -1.624
4th-1.271
5th -1.000
6th -0.794

The Z's 3rd and the Civic's second are similar, maybe you can redline 1st and go directly to 3rd?
hhaha Sorry I should have specified it's a 2007 Civic SI. Which also has 6 speed transmission.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by verdict.
Welcome and congratulations.
Thanks! I'll try to get some pics up later today

hhaha Sorry I should have specified it's a 2007 Civic SI. Which also has 6 speed transmission.
I was considering the SI too, although I read somewhere that its clutch is rather hard for beginners. Hope I made the right choice
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dkmura
Now the trick will be accelerating your learning curve so you'll be able to drive the Z well. Learning to shift a close ratio six-speed gearbox effectively without damaging it is a skill unto itself.
It's a shame that's the way things are now. Not so when I was learning to drive, but I'm a lot older than most of you guys. I learned to drive in 1974 in a brand new '73 MG Midget (no synchro on 1st gear), and quickly progressed to a 300+hp '67 Jaguar XK-E the next year. Never any issues, and many track days at Lime Rock Park. Virtually all sports cars then had manual gearboxes, and I owned/drove almost too many to remember; several Alfa's (still have 3), Austin-Healey's, a few Lotus's, BMW's (2002's and 3.0's), Porsche's, and on and on. All sports cars were RWD, and learning to handle a FWD was the issue, although I did have a Saab 99 for the snow. I still hate driving my wife's Acura TL-S. Learning to drive a fast car only requires patience, the willingness to learn, and understanding the dynamics of the situation. Too bad now kids start to drive in FWD/AT crap, and like they're recreating a scene from one of those retarded F&F movies.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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Yea, well many people these days just wanted to have something that gets them from A to B safely and reliably, so there's nothing wrong with an AT. I just wanted to have some fun now while I still can so I got a Z, after 8+ years of boring AT . And at least in Europe most people still drive manual so not all are lost .

BTW thinking of getting a proper driving wheel set up with GT5 on the PS3 so I can practice drifting safely . What do you guys think?

PS: the future will be driverless car. There's no dispute to that IMO. Now that will be a bleak future to car enthusiasts.

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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Congratz on your purchase.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Thanks, I think I did pretty well for first purchase AND didn't know how to drive manual. So almost 1 month later, I found the car to be running pretty well, except that the clutch pedal wasn't coming back up fully sometimes and that the brakes sound a bit weird. Might have to change the clutch master and brakes . Wish I wasn't living in an apartment complex and have my own garage so I could do everything DIY.
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