Approximately how much shot of NOS can our 350Z handle with stock internals?

 

100 shot.......all I can say...is change your oil after using it....they put sulfides in auto grade juice.

 

Also, which NOS system is better? "WET KIT or DRY KIT"
Is the 100 shot a safe way to go or is it pushing the limits?

 

I personally wouldnt do 100shot... that seems like a hell of alot to do on stock internals taht are unproven with open head aluminum block.

unless you want to be the guinei pig and pay to replace the engine when it blows(note I didnt say if) NOS definitly voids the warrenty. but hell you will possibly hit 12s with it, too bad the 99.9% of the time that your not duking it out from 0-110 you only succeeded in adding 50lbs of hardware to your car.

 

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Nah 100 isnt much. If this car is ANYTHING like the maxima, it can definately take it

Just get the right fuel flow, see if you can get a bigger pump. Run a wet setup (NX) youll be alright. IM assuming our intake manifolds are capable of mixing the nitrous/fuel enough so it doesnt PUDDLE. IF it DOES Puddle in one or two cylinder bands, for god sakes dont run that kit, run a dry one.

I wish venom would come out with a kit for our cars. I ran that ALL day long on my trusty 2.5L avenger. That car took a 100 shot and just laughed in its face

 

Why do so many people call it NOS? Last time I checked it was still called Nitrous Oxide or N02. NOS is a name brand (Nitrous Oxide Systems) Calling it NOS in general will get you flamed in a lot of forums, unless of course your posting to the "I learned everything I know about cars from THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS forum.

No flame intended, I was just curious as to why?

 

I agree with the NOS comment, but it is the same way with other items, such as Kleenex.....

I also agree with the fact the stock internals could easily take a 100 shot and NEVER blow the engine, as long as a high flow fuel pump is used, along with a few gauges and proper setup (maybe one step colder plugs). I know people that used a 150-200 shot on the Maxima VQ30 with NO problems.... It seems there is a stigma that NO2 will blow up your engine, and that may be true, but only if you don't know what you are doing. That said, I do not plan to use NO2.

 

From first hand and personal experience i believe running a good nitrous setup is 10x more safe, consistent and reliable then a turbo or SC any day of the week.

I had a LONGGGGGG list of people i know running turbos that melted pistons and so forth. I know an equal amount of nitrous users. NOT ONE has had a problem.

 

both are very much about tuning, knowing the cars limits and not cutting corners. except a turbo is like 10x as expensive for just the kit, and the preperations are ussually skipped. a turbo engine can be super reliable, but I would bet you could sink 20grand into the internals to make it foolproof and tuned properly.

nos is much the same way, 100shot is alot of power IMO. if you do it wrong, your in trouble. I know cars that have blown on a 75shot, that was an RSX tho, I guess it must be different.

 

But also like it was posted before, when your not using the giggle gas you just have dead weight but turbo's or sc's are always there when you need them. I think only reason to use nitrous is if your dragging the car on the strip. Using either you will still need to take extra care in your maintenance. Im not a big nitrous fan. The idea is cool but I hate the fact you run out and cant just keep hitting the button. Unless maybe you set up the filling station inside of your car Just remember to do things right. Bulletproofing the engine might cost more to do at first, but if you take into consideration of replacing the engine one or two times it pays for itself.

 

The reason I posted " as NOS is because that's exactly what I was interested in, I was not referring to NOS as in general, just to clarify things.
I am running out of options since before buying the car I thought the after-market Twin Turbos will be out close to the same time. I've managed to save up a good amount of $ for the internal work and Turbos, but the patients is running out.
Come to think of it, may be I should of kept my 97 VR4 and continued with the setup.
I'll try to hold out as long as I can, but NOS is not completely out of the question for me.
I don't wanna be squeezing the bottle, but if things come to worse like waiting a year+ until some serious performance mods start to come out, it'll have to do for me.
Alex

 

I have had better luck with nitrous than I have with forced induction. I have a 50 shot kit on my Yamaha R1 producing 182RWHP completely stock otherwise...
My 99 Durango has a Supercharger kit running 7psi and has constant problems with detonation even after many mods to help the situation. Because of this I did not modify my 2000 M5 beyond the basic Dinan kits...
But I need a new tuner car... the 350Z might be the answer. But just how friendly is the car to mods.

I think its more a cars nature than the method of modification that can cause problems. ie if it's prone to detonation or overheating already... be careful with forced induction, etc...


One mans opinion.

2000 BMW Dinan M5
1999 Durango SC
2002 Toyota Sequoia

 

Isn't the engine supposed to have forged internals???? I thought i read that somewhere. Nitrous is very safe when used safely. I don't know anything about the VQ engine and how the intake manifold affects the no2/fuel mixture when running a wet kit. I like the wet kit better since its easier to install, and you don't have to get higher flowing injectors and a bigger fuel pump. Just give her enough gasoline with the nitrous and you should be alright! As soon as i get my Z, the nitrous kit is on order. Oh yeah, engines blow with nitrous because there isn't enough gas to compensate for the nitrous, therefore running lean and causing detonation. Even if the Z doesn't have forged anything, which i'm pretty sure i read it has the rods forged, a 100 shot shouldn't be too much with enough gas.

 

I would worry about the rear axles. I blew mine out on my FireHawk launching hard at the track with DR's.

the rear end and axle is what will go first.

I will probably squeeze mine too but probably a 75 shot with a WOT switch and not use it to launch.

Lessons learned. I plan on a dry kit too although direct port is pretty cool (but expensive.)

 

I biggest complaint about a turbo on sc. YOU CANT REMOVE IT. Sure you can spend 10+ hours removing it but no one will. When you sell a car with nitrous........no one knows nitrous was on there. Trusssssst me

 

Here is a pic of a 5177 kit from NOS (dry) they run about 500 bucks and include everything you need, even the 15 lb bottle (10lb would work better in the Z.)
You may have to zoom in on the air box to see the selinoids and braids that feed into the air cleaner area. The kit came with 75-100 and 125 shot dual jets. I'm sure there are better products out now though.

NOS 5177 Kit

 

True that!
But, nitrous has limitations and turbo does not

 

turbo has no limitations?? ever lose a vaccuum line or oil line? BOOOM, Nitrous is the best bang for the buck when installed and tuned correctly. and the great thing about nitrous is, when yours not using it...........its not screwing up your gas mileage and the car isnt runnng rich or lean, you dont have to worry about a screwy idle.......its just there.....I would stay clear of wet kits, unless its a direct port, the ZEX kit is good because it raises the fuel line pressure to the FPR when it activates, that or a venom kit would be ideal for us. and you can easily run a 100shot on our motors. Ive run that all day long on my 98 Avenger 2.5L and it doesnt have near the strength of the internals that the Z's have

 

Since we are showing off our old toys......

I ran a 100-120ish shot on my poor little 2.5L Avenger. This was in conjuntion with a S-AFC, 255lph hp fuel pump an moddified a/f gauge, and nitrous pressure gauge. Simple yet effective!





The venom kit was BY FAR the most succesful kit ive installed. I dont like the NX kits too much after seeing my buddies Camaro go BOOM. With the venom If the car runs lean....boop it turns off. WIth his NX.......nope!

Tapped 4" from the throttle body....