it wasnt a personal attack, the opportunity for comedy just presented itself nicely.


but keep on blowing your motor with nitrous


i dont think ill be blowing my motor anytime soon though, so im sorry i wont be able to share in your joy.

 

im sorry, setting up a nitrous system with no window switch or tps switch is definitely cutting corners unless you are a very good driver with lots of money to waste. nitrous can be very dangerous on top of the fact it can blow your motor, its just not something to be taken lightly...

either way, whenever you decide to fix it or have to rebuild, i am right over in orlando and can help you out with whatever you wish to accomplish..

 

so how do your plugs look?

 

Agreed that not having a window switch of some sort, is definitely cutting a corner on a nitrous kit. I thought it was common knowledge for most, that some type of system to shut off the nitous before the rev limit was a must. Glad that you seem to have enought money to fix it and all, and atleast now you will also know to get a switch. Dynotunenitrous.com has a really nice tps/window switch.

 

Strange that since the initial posting there is no mention of the plugs' condition, despite repeated posts to do so. I think I would have eliminated that as soon as I suspected there might be a problem. Anything else is pure speculation at this point. If he doesn't care to check his own plugs, why should anyone else care? JMHO.

 

plugs weree fine, the motor is still sounds weird but im takin the kit off to decide what ima do

 

People, please a get utec if spraying! I know its expensive but on top of it being an adjustable window/TPS switch, it can retard timing for bigger shots and better times. The only thing I have to worry about is setting the right utec map and watching my bottle pressure, then I just stomp the gas at any RPM!

Also, with the utec, if your plans change you can use it for N/A or turbo. I'd recommend it as a first mod.

 

I understand that a utec is a very good tool for tuning, but it is still rather expensive. New they go for about $900+ if Im not mistaken, and there have been a few that have sold used on the forum for about $600. Once a tune is considered though, the price could be well over $1000, and to some, thats just a lot of money.

I believe plenty of people have used just a simple dynotunenitrous tps/rpm switch with great success. Your only advantage to me is being able to tune a 150shot, and tune your N/A map.

For around $1000, Im not sure if this is a great mod for a lot of people.

 

^ Psssssst Talk to Jeremy!!!! Wink Wink

 

Anything over a 75 shot, you should be pulling some timing.. Im pulling 6 degrees for a 125 shot just to be safe

 

be careful...pull too much timing and you'll burn your exhaust valves.

 

^^ how much is too much timing?

 

I think you are on the safe side with just a 100 shot. You could pull timing for a 100 shot, but if is set up properly, I dont feel it is needed. I also think that pulling 6 degrees of timing for a 125 shot may be a little much as well. Im not to sure, but I dont think Jeremy pulled that much out for his 150 shot. I though it was only about 4 degrees pulled.

I also know that Jeremy has had some good success lately tuning cars with a UTEC and such. Im just stating that for the average person with an intake and exhaust, spending over $1000 for a tune, probably isnt necessary. Thats why it shouldnt be considered a must first mod.

 

I had my car tuned on the dyno many times and with 57Nitrous and 31fuel jets along with one step colder plugs the car had no knock reported with 6 degrees... I had a knock here and there with just 4 pulled... Every car is different... Jeremy told me he pulled 4 degrees.. But this is what I dont like about all you guys saying Im running a 150 shot or I am running a 100 shot... What pills are you using cause those NX calculations are flywheel numbers and you can play with the pills to adjust the shot for your car.. For example, my car is running a 57N and 31F like I said, and it gives me 111hp on the dyno to the wheels ... NX chart shows 57N and 31F as a 125 shot.. Now my buddy has my exact same NX setup and he uses a 57N 33F for his "125" shot and only dynos 104 from the shot... I would like to know what size pills you guys are running with these "150" shots

And if you are running Nitrous a Utec should be the first thing on the list...

 

Its not hard to self tune a utec for N/A and nitrous. If you have a laptop and W/B, a week of practicing N/A tunes will have you ready for tuning nitrous. Spending that much for a tune is ridiculous! Hell, I sold my exhaust and pop-charger to raise money for the utec and my car is a lot better off for it! You usually can get deals on tuning if your tuner sells you the EMS. Most importantly, the utec/ems helps you to get to know your car in the most critical ways.

 

Im not arguing that a UTEC is a very product. It is a very good tool for tuning. I suppose that if you were to buy it from a tuner, they may throw you a deal on the tune, but then your paying for that much more on the UTEC itself.

Also, I was always under the impression that NX measured whp, not flywheel horsepower. That doesnt always mean they are going to be spot on.

 

62N and 34 F by the way remember, all the jets are rated to the wheels but at 1050 bottle pressure, there is a BIG difference in 1050 and 875, thats why its hard to have accurate and consistent dyno numbers using nitrous. also, tuning a lot of cars here lately, you can make a 20 hp difference in having AFRs at 12 to 1 instead of 11.2 to 1 all day long. so another factor in dyno tuning it....


i took out four degrees of timing on my 150 shot BUT every car is different for sure. i also was running a pretty fat NA map, (12.4 to 1) but my car liked it.


6 degrees isnt really overkill, he will be fine with that, taking out too much timing is bad but too much timing would be down in the single digits...

i think the utec is a perfect first or last mod, i just had a bone stock rev up come in, it put down 239 on my dynojet. i added a KnN filter in it and fully tuned it, this was bone stock again, i got 255 and some change out of it. thats 16 hp out of a pretty much stock car, i was very happy with it.

then we put a 100 shot on it and the car hauls a$$ for sure now...

i have some specials going on right now with a utec (installed and tuned) its WAY less than you think

pm me for any details on it if you dont already know!!!

thanks guys, i just ordered my direct port NX kit for my car, on top of my high compression NA motor i am building, i think i decided on a 100 shot through a fogger and a 200 shot direct port.

this might get crazy