I have to agree. If the shop agrees to sponsor Eddie and give him 10k worth of work for 3.5k, then good for Eddie. Eddie's end of the deal is to show the car at a certain number of shows and get the shop's name out there, hopefully backed by the good job they did on his car. If the shop told him the car would be ready in two weeks, then it should be finished in two weeks. If they said it would be done in two months, then expect to pick it up in two months. HOWEVER if they say it will be done in two weeks and it take four, that (to me) is completely unacceptable. Commitments are commitments and each party involved should adhere to them. The shop is only hurting itself by failing to live up to a simple deadline.

 

^ Exactly.. I can't stand these car shops that never meet the deadline. Maybe they need to work a few months in the corporate world.

 

don't worry.. i won't cross state lines.. my pistol permit is only valid in CT

 

^ lol @ doug bein a thug my dood

 

Yeah. That's where I work, the corporate world, where missed deadlines are not tolerated (at least not without just cause or advance notification of potential delays). I really don't like the entire automobile aftermarket industry in the respect that vendors tend to be very cavalier about meeting deadlines, which to me seems like a lack of respect for the buyer's business.

I work as a project engineer for a small company and when I order a ~$5,000.00 part from one of our suppliers and it comes with a two month lead time, I plan for the two month delivery cycle and I expect the part to show up on time at the end of the quoted two month cycle. Keep in mind this is the company's $5000, not my own. Now if I go to some auto body shop and they agree to do $5000 of work to my personal car, to be paid by my personal bank account, then I sure do expect that work to be done accurately and on time as per my agreement with the auto body shop. If I didn't obtain some sort of price/delivery quotation or written agreement before handing over my car and keys, then shame on me. But ultimately shame on most aftermarket auto shops for not being educated enough in the ways of doing proper business to know that these types of measures should be taken to protect both the buyer and the seller. The written agreement assures the buyer that the work will be completely satisfactorily and timely, and it also serves to make the seller more conscientious about sticking to dealines as promised to the customer.

This isn't something that I learned in college. This is something that I learned by doing business in the real world. Although many people in the professional aftermarket auto industry may not have formal higher education, it is not an excuse to have a complete lack of business sense.

 

I think the point is that by the time this show came around, Potter had been screwed by this guy multiple times yet continued to go there. I agree that the bodyman needs to be ethical and follow through on his promises. On the other hand, ever heard the saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me..."?

 

Im still scared... bullets travel really far. eBullets that is. ouch. my shoulder.

 

i'm no thug.. i wear my shirt and tie to work 5 days a week... Julian can tell you.. i am no thug or claim to be a thug..

however if people want to talk **** about they got other people's back and they want to do something.. i am only going to defend myself... they can come to CT anytime they want... our doors are opened to all.

 

omg.... you sir are an internet warrior. you make some ****ty comment about harry, and then everyone else is the bad guy.

grow up.

 

like i said before.. i hate and will always hate sponsor crowd... they always getting **** next to nothing... drive around like they paid for all the **** on their cars and arrogant about it... i met lots of sponsor kids... always going from shop to shop asking for sponsors so they can get discount on mods.. buy your own ****... spend your own money... you want to have a 30k modded car... then spend 30k on your car.. i feel if you don't have the money to have a 30k modded car.. then you shouldn't have one... i could care less if you go to shows and park your car there whenever they call you.. pay for your own ****.. maybe its just the way i was brought up.. i paid for everything myself... my cars... my clothes... once i started working.. i had to pay for everything myself

 

well isn't this the pot calling the kettle black... you are the one who has his back like this is highschool or something... you are having someone's back in an internet argument.. what you going to do? hold his ethernet cable?

take your own advice and grow up.. you don't have to form internet clique's to feel important

 

I agree with you to a certain extend. I think it's perfectly okay for someone to run around and get sponsorships. So you're saying if your good friend decides to give you a free set of Volks GT-S, you're not gonna put them on because you believe that you have to pay for your own shxt? hmm..? What I agree with you is when they drive around like they paid for everything. I go on cardomain.com and see people list how much money they spent on their mods when the parts are sponsored... That's lame. Or when I post a comment about how I can't afford to buy a Vortech supercharger, some FI sponsored kid flames me for saying, "If you can't afford shxt, don't go FI."

 

gift... well i draw the line on that.. but if i am running aorund with Volk GT-S on my car and someone says.. hey.. those are some nice Volks.. how much did they run you.. my response should and always be my friend gave them to me... the whole sponsorship thing rubs me the wrong way too from they guy who had SFR sponsor him and never paid Tim at all.. till they had to seek legal action.. the kid even tried to sell the turbo kit on ebay.. i feel if you don't have the money to afford it.. they you shouldn't have it.

 

I can understand you may have had bad experiences with the "sponsor crowd" but look at the other side of that coin. IF your car gets sponsored you DO NOT get parts FREE. You have to pay cost on them, and installation expenses. The sponsor "looses" his markup, BUT in return he gets to use your car for marketing purposes. This means the sponsored car is (usually) OBLIGATED to be at designated events. If you cannot get to the event your car can still be required to appear which means transport issues & costs. I have been told by people that have sponsored cars that they WOULD NOT do it again. They say there are to many headaches, residual expenses, schedule conflicts, not to mention you have to be really careful not to damage the vehicle!! I thought about sponsorship but decided I would "spend my own money" . That way I decide what is done to it, and I am not obligated to anyone. Like EVERYTHING in life there are advantages and disadvantages. Just my 2c

 

i hear that... lots of things i want done to my car.. but i am not doing them till my bank account says i can.. fortunately it says i can but if i couldn't afford it.. i would drive a stock Z and mod it little by little until i can finally afford all the things i want. Having a Sponsored car would make me the most humble guy in the world, because i know i didn't pay for most of it... and if someone with $4000 in mods on his/her Z said they didn't like my car, however my car is $30,000 in mods and i only paid $3,500 worth? i can't say sh@t to that person.. because they have spent more than i have.. and who cares if my car looks better because i have more mods.. fact is.. they are still $500 spent on me and i have to climb back into my cubby hole

 

yes i'm talking to you Doug....

Hey Dan....haven't heard from you in a while......lol...I don't think I need help with this one....lol...seems a bit soft.....

and thanks for your support guys....

 

It is no interenet clique. I have met harry and you were completely off base. you have NO idea what you are talking about and you are rubbing salt in a guys wounds. I don't 'have his back', you post flaming him because you have some image of him being this whiney ***** begging for parts when it isn't the case. he may be a *****, but he hasn't been whiney that i have seen

If he got discounts, GREAT! I am jealous as well. I am sure you shop around for the best deal. he found a way to get a great deal that required a little work on his side but benefited him as well.

I know this is probably a moot point, since you will never see a different point of view, and YES I know the type of kids you are thinking about, but potter isn't one of them (and I think he is older than me)

 

see that is a different story. I agree, but I don't think I have ever seen potter say he was not sponsored, and he has never rubbed it in anyone's face on the forums. but it isn't apples to apples since Harry even stated he paid a good deal of money to this shop for work already and THEY didn't come through with thier end of the deal.

 

lol...motor did you say I might be a biatch?.....lol

Motor....I still love your wheels by the way.....they are super sick

 

haha... I didn't say MIGHT I said you ARE !! hahaha.

and thanks... I need some brakes to fill them out though. did you get suspension yet??

actually I have to PM you about something...