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Originally Posted by 08 Darkness
+1 for the Great Mall Cart Guy.... He did my key for my 99 Z28 and it works great. For the price he offers its hard to beat.
Did he program your key in your car or did he do it on a computer?
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Originally Posted by puzzybaby
Yup! I bit the bullet and bought me a generic key then had it cut by a local locksmith - no programming.
Went home and tried it.
It opens the door then tried to start the Z - but it only cranks the engine and won't start the car. So I inserted my orig. key and it starts the car right away, then I inserted the copy and again it only cranks the engine but not start the car.
I figured for $2.50 it's worth a try.
I purchased a key FOB remote a while back on eBay for my Murano, then sold it, then used that same FOB and re-programmed the same remote for my Z - and it works.
I guess any key FOB remote will work on the Z after programming - but not the keys.
So question is: Can I buy a Z-key with transponder on eBay then have Dealer program it? Or will Dealer only program keys bought from them?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...em310024393103
This key costs only +/- $20 - way cheaper than Dealer - but useless if Dealer will not even program it.
So maybe I will try that key-guy on a cart at the Great Mall in Milpitas San Jo if he can do it. But does this guy have a computer like the Dealer to program it?
Will he return/refund money if it does not work?
Went home and tried it.
It opens the door then tried to start the Z - but it only cranks the engine and won't start the car. So I inserted my orig. key and it starts the car right away, then I inserted the copy and again it only cranks the engine but not start the car.
I figured for $2.50 it's worth a try.
I purchased a key FOB remote a while back on eBay for my Murano, then sold it, then used that same FOB and re-programmed the same remote for my Z - and it works.
I guess any key FOB remote will work on the Z after programming - but not the keys.
So question is: Can I buy a Z-key with transponder on eBay then have Dealer program it? Or will Dealer only program keys bought from them?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...em310024393103
This key costs only +/- $20 - way cheaper than Dealer - but useless if Dealer will not even program it.
So maybe I will try that key-guy on a cart at the Great Mall in Milpitas San Jo if he can do it. But does this guy have a computer like the Dealer to program it?
Will he return/refund money if it does not work?
do me a favor. .use the new key and just hold the programmed key near the ignition while u crank and see what happens.. . ..
and i fu buy a key i belive the dealer can program any key!
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Originally Posted by Z_Driver
Standard stuff. That programmable key is expensive. I had to bite the bullet as well. I think I paid $75 for the key and $50 to program. Some people say you can get the key on line for $30 and have it programmed. However, I tried 4-5 places around me and they said only NISSAN can program the key. NISSAN said they would only program a key you bought through them. Bogus I say.... So, your kinda stuck. I believe I had to leave the car for a couple of hours with all the keys and remotes so they could match the coding. I think what they do is set the computer and then go through a process with each item so the computer can recognized and sync up with the various items. At least that is how I understood it.
So for, $125 I have a spare now. I had to shop that at three or four of the dealers. It ranged for $125-180 to get it done.
Yes, that's a lot for a key! Oh well, at least that's all I've had to pay NISSAN since I bought the car four years ago. ;-) Knock on wood ....
So for, $125 I have a spare now. I had to shop that at three or four of the dealers. It ranged for $125-180 to get it done.
Yes, that's a lot for a key! Oh well, at least that's all I've had to pay NISSAN since I bought the car four years ago. ;-) Knock on wood ....
Cheaper than the Great Mall cart-guy...
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Originally Posted by DraGonAlchemist
do me a favor. .use the new key and just hold the programmed key near the ignition while u crank and see what happens.. . ..
and i fu buy a key i belive the dealer can program any key!
and i fu buy a key i belive the dealer can program any key!
That's a good idea...
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No go - Bro!
Originally Posted by puzzybaby
Hey DragonAlchemist - I will do what you say and get back to you.
That's a good idea...
That's a good idea...
I tried it several times - under, over and beside the ignition when turning key copy but the Z will still NOT start - just cranks.
Also what it did was disable the Z that not even the orig. key will not work.
I had to enable/disable the FOB to reset the Z so it will start again using the orig. key.
No other way now but have a transponder key programmed to work. Sucks!
Originally Posted by puzzybaby
How much did he charge you?
Did he program your key in your car or did he do it on a computer?
Did he program your key in your car or did he do it on a computer?
Originally Posted by DraGonAlchemist
anyone can make a dup. .even home depot can. .the question is Can they Program the key for the Chip to commune with the security system. . and the answer is NO!
When I had my 350z, I brought the car to the guy with all the spare keys and remotes and he used these devices to reprogram all my spare keys and make a duplicate for me. Apparently, you cannot just make a duplicate from the original program. You have to wipe out the original program from both the ecu and keys and reprogram a new program in all the keys and ecu again.
I just wanted to make clear that the dealerships were not the only ones with the ability to make duplicate keys with immobilizer systems.
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Originally Posted by nofeardude87
Ok, what I'm trying to say is that the dealer is not the only ones with the equipment to duplicate the chips in the keys. There are other private businesses that have to equipment and software necessary for duplicating keys with immobilizer systems. However, not many people have the equipment because it is very expensive.
When I had my 350z, I brought the car to the guy with all the spare keys and remotes and he used these devices to reprogram all my spare keys and make a duplicate for me. Apparently, you cannot just make a duplicate from the original program. You have to wipe out the original program from both the ecu and keys and reprogram a new program in all the keys and ecu again.
I just wanted to make clear that the dealerships were not the only ones with the ability to make duplicate keys with immobilizer systems.
When I had my 350z, I brought the car to the guy with all the spare keys and remotes and he used these devices to reprogram all my spare keys and make a duplicate for me. Apparently, you cannot just make a duplicate from the original program. You have to wipe out the original program from both the ecu and keys and reprogram a new program in all the keys and ecu again.
I just wanted to make clear that the dealerships were not the only ones with the ability to make duplicate keys with immobilizer systems.
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ok so i looked in the yellow pages, and i found a couple places that duplicate transponder keys. they're closed right now so i'm going to give them a call tomorrow. i'll get back to you guys.
Originally Posted by Z_Driver
They still tell me to this day the Z only comes with one key and no valet keys and it's a misprint in the owners manual that is taken from some other car.
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yes your right. .i just called my parts guy. .the z was supposed to come with 3 keys. .2 regular keys. .and one Valet key. .all which are chipped. .because the valet key also needs to be able to start the car. .beats me what else it can/cant do so a valet key was probably a waste to begin with. .not like u can lock the glove box. .but w/e. .3 keys it is!!!
Originally Posted by scotts300
They are (obviously) lying. You should call someone out on it. Get a manager, see if he lies to your face. I love stirring the pot at Nissan when you know more than the staff does. Regardless, all models, from 03-present, come with 3 keys.
Last edited by Z_Driver; Feb 22, 2008 at 02:42 PM.
Originally Posted by 08 Darkness
He did mine on his computer using my old key. This was a while back but he wanted $60 (OEM Key + Programing) but negotiated at $50. This was on a Tuesday must have been slow for him. I was skeptic @ first but he guaranteed his work and even went out to test it with me.
It cost $50 just for the programming at the dealership.... Then another $75 for the key. I need 3 more for family on NISSAN Pathfinders... So, I'll grab the keys and vehicles and make a run. I know..... one at a time. Doh !!
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i personally never had a chipped key done by them, but i use them for like cylinder coding and what not. But Ausbery locksmith here in NJ does chipped keys. .im not sure how much but if i remember correctly it was around 50 as well. .
personally i rather the dealer do it. .
personally i rather the dealer do it. .
There's a sponsor advertising here lawerancelocksmithinc that has mobile service. I emailed him to see what he charges for our keys and programming. Plus, I asked if he has a walk in service.
Let see what this guy charges ...
Let see what this guy charges ...
Originally Posted by DraGonAlchemist
yes your right. .i just called my parts guy. .the z was supposed to come with 3 keys. .2 regular keys. .and one Valet key. .all which are chipped. .because the valet key also needs to be able to start the car. .beats me what else it can/cant do so a valet key was probably a waste to begin with. .not like u can lock the glove box. .but w/e. .3 keys it is!!!
My glove box locks... Would be nice if it would limit the speed of the car so it couldn't go past say, 25mph. Keep Valet drivers from joyriding in our cars. But you are right they are useless IMO on the Z since we dont have trunks.
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