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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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So as requested I'm starting a new thread after my break. Is a link to the old thread when it falls out https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133994V .

Here we go. I finally finished the speed signal wiring, and the Auto tuning set up. Its all pretty easy to set up.

From start to finish a little over half an hour. Just mounted the greddy pressure sensor, T'd into the Vac line for the pressure guage. I ran the wiring through the fire wall like every other time (see the first ballz deep). Then plugged that into port 1 of the EU. The coil of wire from the AF guage install (that sends the lambda signal) that was left coiled behind the dash was connected to the white wire of the optional pressure harness and plugged that int port 2. All the extra wires were tucked up and away under the dash.

I also set up the 2 step for the EU. Works great!! Set it at 3K RPM.

Just got a few tuning bugs to work out with all the new gizmo's
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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well it looks like my EU **** the bed shortly after hooking up the auto tune. I'm sending it to sharif@forgedinternals and hes gonna run a few tests and send it to greddy. All is covered under warrenty so I will have a new eu in a few weeks.

good news though, the safe guard and blitz boost controller came in this week. Bad news still no Greddy TT and every thing is on hold until the EU is up and running.

So every thing has been delayed until after christmas.

I've got a big a$$ load of parts in my living room that need to go into the car; just piled up. SSV, greddy turbo timer, safeguard, blitz boost controler, walbro 255 pump, 650CC injectors, emanage ultimate harness, fuel return system including fule rails. yeah lots of $$ just sitting arroun looking pretty.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Finaly got word on my TT. Its being shipped out on the 22nd of December. changed my order many months ago, but hey better late than never, right.

Now I have a huge delima. Do I go home on the 3rd of january and wait till march to do my install, do the install and wait to see my family until summer, or last pay to have it installed and tuned during the time I'm going to see my family that way I get my 420+whp beast when I get home.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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which ever way you go, I'd do the install yourself. one, you save the money of course. two, you get the pride and sense of security that you did it yourself. three, I just don't know if I'd trust a shop enough to leave it with them for a couple months. maybe I'm just paranoid, but I hate the idea of someone wrenching around in my car b/c I know they won't ever take the time and care that I would on it. but thats just me.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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which ever way you go, I'd do the install yourself. one, you save the money of course. two, you get the pride and sense of security that you did it yourself. three, I just don't know if I'd trust a shop enough to leave it with them for a couple months. maybe I'm just paranoid, but I hate the idea of someone wrenching around in my car b/c I know they won't ever take the time and care that I would on it. but thats just me.
I was quoted 5-7 days. I don't know why so long its a 16 hour job. The problem I'm running into is time. With traveling I just don't have enough right now. Too many trips too long too frequently. Ahhh double edged sword.
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I was quoted 5-7 days. I don't know why so long its a 16 hour job. The problem I'm running into is time. With traveling I just don't have enough right now. Too many trips too long too frequently. Ahhh double edged sword.
thats an install quote right? not a tuning quote? that is pretty fricken long for an install though, did you ask them why they said 5-7 days? is that one guy and is he building you a new car from the ground up?
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thats an install quote right? not a tuning quote? that is pretty fricken long for an install though, did you ask them why they said 5-7 days? is that one guy and is he building you a new car from the ground up?
Hypersport takes there sweet a$$ time. Usualy they work on them for a few hours a day. they usualy only put one tech on it. so they stretch out the time and $$$
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Blah...5-7 days....

I did mine in 2 weeks..screwing off and doing a lot of extra things...

Headers are a PITA we took mine out..heat wrap and reinstall..took like 5 hours with 2 people....


Really though Ive heard of Greddy installs ranging from 20-40 hours.....

I would plan on ur car being OOC for 2 weeks.....cause u know better than me crap breaks at the time....

if u do it your self where are u going??
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Blah...5-7 days....

I did mine in 2 weeks..screwing off and doing a lot of extra things...

Headers are a PITA we took mine out..heat wrap and reinstall..took like 5 hours with 2 people....


Really though Ive heard of Greddy installs ranging from 20-40 hours.....

I would plan on ur car being OOC for 2 weeks.....cause u know better than me crap breaks at the time....

if u do it your self where are u going??

I'm gonna wrap the turbo manifold before I take every thing to the shop. I'm gonna try and not screw off much. I have a lot to do. Manifold, injectors, fuel rails/return, fuel pump, the TT, boost control, turbo timer, js safeguard.

on the 21st I got an email saying my TT was shipped that day so its gonna be in in a week or so.
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Finaly got the EU back today and hooked it back up, set up the 2 step again, and all but set up the AF adjust map. Every thing is working great. The mysterious part is Shariff only plugged it in and set used his own map. It worked, so he sent it back.

I plugged it in and it worked. So my question is what the FOCK happend? Nothing changed and it worked when I plugged it in. Damn Gremlins. WTF!!!

So now just waiting on the TT kit.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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wow...seems like you've been waiting on your TT kit for a year now. I'm sure its not that long, but its been a while huh? I can't wait to see/hear your setup when you get it running.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Take it to Sonics, they did a great job at installed a Power Enterprise TT kit on a G35. Tell'm Chris Billete from Super Laps referred you.
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Where is Sonic's at and are they decent priced? Still waitting on the TWINS!! Dam holidays!!

At least every thing else has come in so yeah just waiting...

juuusst waiting.

may even see what it will take to get my cams and springs installed.
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I finally got the Auto tune to work so Im no longer runnig lean. It works like charm, and I've felt a little diffrence in acceleration.

This should work wonders on tuning the TT Kit. Hopefuly reduce the price of the tune since its all done except the timing; thats what the safe guards for.

I gotta find a vacuum block before I can install the safeguard though. The vacuum block will give a better tap for all the lines better than splicing every thing off of 1 hose. Now I have to make a bracket to hold the block and the boost sensors.
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Sonic's is kind of in back of Hypersports. There's a small alley next to Hypersports...go through through it and Sonics will be on your left. Ask for Elliot or Robert and use my name as a referral.
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FIRST....

finally fine tune the auto tune. had it working before but I had it set too sensative and starting to record at 2% throttle. Yeah not a good idea! It will cause some weird effects like when you are ideling and a blast of wind goes directly tward the nose of your car. It retards timing because the extra air isn't mixing right with the fuel. This causes a build up of fuel vapor (super rich) Since you dont have the RPM to burn it all it the car then advances the timming alot like 30 or 40 degrees (1400 miliseconds). The car instantly burns the fuel and goes lean, once again this time no more extra wind. So timming is retarded + 0 extra fuel = stall.

Sounds weird but it makes perfect sence when you see the datalogging. I cant screen capture becasue I'm stupid right now.

If any one is thinking of getting the EU at least I can help wire it and set it up. Just hope those crappy gremlins dont come over.

NEXT...

I have my high volume oil pan comming USPS ground. Its pretty cool, its finned to cool oil, holds an extra 1.25 quarts and has 2 ports to mount oil return lines for turbos.

LASTLY...

I ordered a 6 port vacuum manifold for all the vacuum goodies under the hood. just need to find a place to mount it. Thinking about machining a brace that spans the bolts that use to hol on the engine cover.

GOD more crap building up in the living room for when those DAMN turbos get in. This better damn well be worth it for the length of time I've spent waiting arround with my thumbs twiddeling away.

This weekend I'm gonna see what it takes to set up the Safe guard and tune it. It recomends driving and have passanger tune. So I have my friend, an electrical engineer, twisting the knobbies and me giving him feed back. I'm setting it up just prior to the EU feed that way any change thats made by the safe guard can be data logged.

After all this tuning I eventualy need to get my EU reflashed to get rid of the unexpected map switching, bump up the rev limiter, take off the speed limiter, and program in hard timming so I will have finer adjustability with the Safeguard.

blah blah blah rambel rambel..... Im going to bed.
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How tough is it to tune yourself?
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Thats why I went Turbonetics......

What I should have done was....

UTEC...
Tutrbonetics Tuner Kit.....
AAM fuel system....


Pretty much the Full kit is good till 400WHP....

My next stage is UTEC and a Fuel system Upgrade and Cams....put me about 450ish
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How tough is it to tune yourself?
If you follow the install directions and no one sticks their foot through your auto sport wiring harness. pretty easy. just hook it up, follow tune directions, do the test drive (again minus the foot thing) and you should be set. It will pull 10 or 20 deg of timing upon knock on either all cylinders or individualy. Depending on dip switch settings.

It also has a boost retard function. It will either pull 0 2 4 6 or 8 deg of additional timing at specific boost intervals you can set. plus you can set what boost level it comes in at. The unit is responsive up to 15psi, and any thing above 15 it treats as 15 psi. not zero out like some thing do once you hit the max.

So if you do the math it will pull from 10 to 28 degrees of timing, incraments of 2; when specifc conditions are meet.

Just have to retune the fuel now. kinda messed it up during the road test, I forgot and left the auto tune on when I unplugged the vac line for the road tune.

EDIT: and if you have one of those rpm paterns that every once in a while it dips real low (500 or so RPM), yeah it smoothes it right out.

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Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
Thats why I went Turbonetics......

What I should have done was....

UTEC...
Tutrbonetics Tuner Kit.....
AAM fuel system....


Pretty much the Full kit is good till 400WHP....

My next stage is UTEC and a Fuel system Upgrade and Cams....put me about 450ish
My end goal is 600WHP+ for the high setting 500WHP+ for daily driver. It takes a little more tuning to get the E manage right but it seams ok once every thing is set. Excluding gremlins

DAMN TT NEEDS TO GET HERE!!!!!

Once I start pushing mid 400's gonna do the switch to the tripple plate carbon clutch. So if some one wants a CHEAP JWT 14lb flywheel and HD clutch it will be up then. Hasnt been raced just daily drive, hard but daily driver.
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