Nikon D80 lens choice...BNIB Tokina 116 or gently used Nikon 12-24?
Originally Posted by noodleman
If both can be had at the same price, which would you choose?
Photozone's tests show great sharpness:
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Cano..._1116_28_canon
Mr. Nikon, Ken Rockwell's glowing review saying:
If you're on a budget or if you want the sharpest ultra-wide lens for your DX Nikon, get this Tokina 11-16mm. It's better than the more expensive (and longer zoom range) Nikkor 12-24mm.
If you need autofocus on your D40, D40x or D60, you need either the Nikkor 12-24mm or the Sigma 10-20mm HSM. I wouldn't worry; AF isn't critical with ultra wide lenses.
If you want the sharpest results, use a Nikon D300 body.
If you really, really need sharpness, ditch your Nikon DX camera and step up to the superior full-frame Canon 5D for the same price as the D300. Use the excellent and inexpensive Canon 17-40mm f/4 L (or 16-35mm f/2.8 L II) on it. You'll get a larger zoom range and much higher sharpness for not much more money. The Nikon D3 and 14-24mm f/2.8 are as good technically as the 5D, but three times as expensive.
The full review:If you need autofocus on your D40, D40x or D60, you need either the Nikkor 12-24mm or the Sigma 10-20mm HSM. I wouldn't worry; AF isn't critical with ultra wide lenses.
If you want the sharpest results, use a Nikon D300 body.
If you really, really need sharpness, ditch your Nikon DX camera and step up to the superior full-frame Canon 5D for the same price as the D300. Use the excellent and inexpensive Canon 17-40mm f/4 L (or 16-35mm f/2.8 L II) on it. You'll get a larger zoom range and much higher sharpness for not much more money. The Nikon D3 and 14-24mm f/2.8 are as good technically as the 5D, but three times as expensive.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tokina/11-16mm.htm
So unless you have a D40, D40x, or D60 which you must manual focus, I'd get the Tokina. It's sharper, and faster at a constant f/2.8. Some say you don't need 2.8 on a UWA, I beg to differ. A wider aperture always means faster shutter speed, which always makes a difference in freezing moving subjects and low light and the combination of the two, along with handholdability.
I'm receiving the Tokina today, so I'll let you know real soon how much I love it
Last edited by ctwentytwo; May 6, 2008 at 06:11 PM.
Originally Posted by chartchaiganan
11-16 f/2.8 Tokina. do it.
Tokina 11-16 vs. Sigma 10-20 vs. Sigma 10mm fisheye
Got the Tokina 11-16 and Sigma 10mm fisheye yesterday, along with my Gary Fong clear lightsphere and Oragami, Kata DR-465 rucksack (backpack), and some other gear...
A comparison of how much can be it into their shortest focal lengths. Look at how much more you get from the Sigma 10-20's 10mm than the Tokina 11-16's 11mm. And you get even more into the frame going from 10mm rectilinear to 10mm fisheye!
Oh btw, if Tokina made image stabilized lenses, all my lenses would be Tokina. This thing is my best built lens yet... but it's not saying much as I don't have L lenses. I love the finish. The rings are tight. The hood has the crinkle finish unlike the canon consumer hoods which scratch easily.
Got the Tokina 11-16 and Sigma 10mm fisheye yesterday, along with my Gary Fong clear lightsphere and Oragami, Kata DR-465 rucksack (backpack), and some other gear...
A comparison of how much can be it into their shortest focal lengths. Look at how much more you get from the Sigma 10-20's 10mm than the Tokina 11-16's 11mm. And you get even more into the frame going from 10mm rectilinear to 10mm fisheye!
Oh btw, if Tokina made image stabilized lenses, all my lenses would be Tokina. This thing is my best built lens yet... but it's not saying much as I don't have L lenses. I love the finish. The rings are tight. The hood has the crinkle finish unlike the canon consumer hoods which scratch easily.
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Originally Posted by Bubble
the 1mm extra does make a different eh? so you like it? if not, sell it back to me. lolz
Definitely keeping the Tokina. The lens feels like it's built to last... like a tank. But really, I would not mind having the 10-20 in place of the Tokina. For many, the extra 1mm's extra space makes a huge difference, as you can clearly see in the comparison shots.
Bubble, I don't see why you couldn't just buy the 11-16. It would be pennies for you as you have all those L's. This purchase should be a drop in the bucket.
Originally Posted by ctwentytwo
Bubble, I don't see why you couldn't just buy the 11-16. It would be pennies for you as you have all those L's. This purchase should be a drop in the bucket.
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