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Old 10-25-2007, 06:41 PM
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Damn....

<---- Eagerly awaiting details.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:46 PM
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Wow no back pressure at all, defenitely the smoothest TN graph that I have seen even though its 10.5 psi.. Nice job PF
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by D350Z10
Wow no back pressure at all, defenitely the smoothest TN graph that I have seen even though its 10.5 psi.. Nice job PF
No back pressure??? something makes that torque just dive and the power stop climbing.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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^ Its very smooth compared to others I have seen graphs where it is basically straight up and all power comes in at once, there are no spikes in his graph the power curve is steady and shows effiecent air flow.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:31 PM
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thats a nice graph...
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by D350Z10
^ Its very smooth compared to others I have seen graphs where it is basically straight up and all power comes in at once, there are no spikes in his graph the power curve is steady and shows effiecent air flow.
I guess, the torque is nice and smooth on its way down
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Lol^ you find me a dyno graph where the tq levels off and is steady I will be shocked.. it doesn't make sense, torque is the build of of air.. that air has to be released so it has to drop off.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:54 PM
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So, I got the opportunity to stop by the shop and check out a pull on Craig's car. I must say the turbo spool up sounds insanely sick!! Ear piercing.

Should be interesting to see the final results.
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:04 PM
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hope theres a video soon
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by westpak
I guess, the torque is nice and smooth on its way down

how about we take your "XXXXXXX" built car and craigs car out for a little friendly run here soon...



Are you saying that EVERY nitrous car is slow?? basically you are because thats the same kinda graph that a nitrous car has...

again, please stay off of our threads if you dont have anything positive to say. you, along with a few other people seem to wander your way into threads to spread your debating comments trying to stir stuff up. keep this forum nice or they will be shutting it down soon...

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Old 10-26-2007, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by D350Z10
Lol^ you find me a dyno graph where the tq levels off and is steady I will be shocked.. it doesn't make sense, torque is the build of of air.. that air has to be released so it has to drop off.
Look at any Twin Turbo dyno with a good flowing exhaust and the torque curve stays flat all the way with minimal drop
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by D350Z10
Lol^ you find me a dyno graph where the tq levels off and is steady I will be shocked.. it doesn't make sense, torque is the build of of air.. that air has to be released so it has to drop off.
not true.
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:39 AM
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High boost!!!!!!! This turbo isn't even waking up until 20psi+. I want to see what it'll do at 15/16psi and up
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
how about we take your "XXXXXXX" built car and craigs car out for a little friendly run here soon...

Are you saying that EVERY nitrous car is slow?? basically you are because thats the same kinda graph that a nitrous car has...

again, please stay off of our threads if you dont have anything positive to say. you, along with a few other people seem to wander your way into threads to spread your debating comments trying to stir stuff up. keep this forum nice or they will be shutting it down soon...
I am just making observations on topic.

So what you are basically saying is that if a curve is not like the one here it is a slow car?

What about these TT's that came out of your shop? are they slow then because their torque curves are almost straight?

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/308471-performance-factory-presents-a-shady-story-584whp-g35c.html
https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds/306022-performance-factory-presents-the-sleeper-592-whp-93-octane.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/293453-performance-factory-does-greddy-again-600-a.html

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Old 10-26-2007, 05:43 AM
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that looks great for stock cams! the HP curve is pretty broad it seems.


also Taurran: I never heard your motor was bad before, so no worries.
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:49 AM
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Looks much better...good work. What is stopping you from raising the boost, as the curve looks pretty nice at low boost?

Or does Craig just want to drive his car for a while first. Still going to feel much faster than what he had before.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:17 AM
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I don't think we have a backup on the exhaust side, but I actually like how the curve looks. If we can carry that over to more boost I'll be happy.

The car is running on a very basic tune. That is with no tweaking or fine tuning involved, and running conservatively on the top end. I believe he could pull at least 20whp more out of the setup with some tuning and make it pull even more through the top end.

As Tengai stated, this turbo is no where near it's peak efficiency range. We won't see it really start to put out big power until it hits 14-15psi or so, but it will be in peak efficiency past 20psi.

But, don't get me wrong. This kit has plenty of bottlenecks when it comes to making. So far we've fixed some when it may have been something else all along. Before it's done it's basically going to be a one off custom setup.

Just take it for what its worth now knowing that we've still got a few kinks to work out. We'll have more soon, hopefully. Until then don't crap on my thread, thanks.

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Old 10-26-2007, 06:27 AM
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thanks guys, we are pretty much replacing one section at a time on the original TN and then strapping it on the dyno to see what it changed. its a long on going process that we WILL beat!! haha

once we figure out the top secret turbonetics bottleneck issue, we will sell the secrets for $1000 to each customer
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:35 AM
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Looking real good guys.

To gus please lay off pf i dont want to see this thread turn bad as well. Lets celebrate craigs accomplishments.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:57 AM
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nice power! cant wait to see 15psi+
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