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Old 08-31-2007, 07:50 PM
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sorry if this a dumb question but will this 4.5L stroker be compatible with the old vq35de?
Old 08-31-2007, 07:54 PM
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mmm muy sexy.
Old 08-31-2007, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenk2
I'll take a 700 AWD WHP car any day over a half G35/Toyota Solara

heheheh...they threatened to ban me on the G37 forum for that solara comment...

I have an 04 6mt G35 and can't bring myself to trade it in for a G37...I'd love to FI my car but I have 110k miles on it.
Old 08-31-2007, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by da45king
heheheh...they threatened to ban me on the G37 forum for that solara comment...

I have an 04 6mt G35 and can't bring myself to trade it in for a G37...I'd love to FI my car but I have 110k miles on it.

then along with the FI you should build the motor!
Old 09-01-2007, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by da45king
heheheh...they threatened to ban me on the G37 forum for that solara comment...
ROFL.
Old 09-01-2007, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
ROFLMAO.

didnt ken start that comment actually lol
Old 09-01-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by da45king
heheheh...they threatened to ban me on the G37 forum for that solara comment...

LOL... Are you serious?

-George
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shabib67
Anyway to swap the 3.7 VVEL engines into a 350z and are the 350z going to get VVEL?
YEs, it's the 2009 370z
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Originally Posted by Resolute
The variable lift has a seperate DC motor for adjusting relative ball nut placement on the screw shaft, altering the control shaft position which determines control cam height. The timing adjustment is still based on solenoid-controlled oil pressure through the cam gear CVTC adjuster. The Motec M600 already offers the CVTC adjustment and drive-by-wire, so I am holding out hope that control of the DC Motor as a function of load/rpm in the tuning map will not be too big an obstacle. For us NA guys, this VVeL is very exciting to see. I am hesitant to guess at higher rpm use with the configuration's weight, but it is still exciting. I think GTM being a Motec tuner is a great step, and opens up more potential for what they will be able to extract from this system.

Will
Yes Will, I know... that was the first thing I looked at when I got the 2008 Service manual... But there are some conplications. Motec Mx00 can't drive high current DC's, so we need to actually take a look at the motor... if this is the case, than one needs to implement a separate high current DC driver. The cam ADVANCE portion is not a problem, the VVEL on the other hand...
Old 09-01-2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by da45king
heheheh...they threatened to ban me on the G37 forum for that solara comment...
I highly doubt they would threaten to ban you unless you said in a way to purposely cause trouble.

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Originally Posted by George@GTM
Will,

We are very excited to get the MoTeC running on this platform. Sam recently attended a MoTeC class along with Sharif and he is very impressed with the system and their philosophy. Keep in mind their will only be a handleful of people using this type of EMS on the VQ.

More than likely we will be using the M800 with a few added options. I am not sure on the VVeL control with the MoTeC but If anything can control it, it would be a MoTeC system.

We have a lot of products for the HR (Cams are already available) and coming soon for the VVeL engine.

I will try to keep everything updated with pictures and videos to share with the community as much as possible.

Thanks for your comments everyone, We really appreciate your support because with out our valued customers we could not make this possible.

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It will control the VVeL and I would go with the M880, you will love it ... I did
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Originally Posted by aalzuhair
It will control the VVeL and I would go with the M880, you will love it ... I did
I would not do the 880, the harness is a REAL pain to work with, and no different feature-wise from the 800 (as far as I remember). Simon himself recommended I don't.
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Originally Posted by GurgenPB
I would not do the 880, the harness is a REAL pain to work with, and no different feature-wise from the 800 (as far as I remember). Simon himself recommended I don't.
Well yeah they are about the same except for the 4mb logging option. And its kind of strange for Simon not to recommend the M880, ... I see no reason for that ... At any rate I guess the the M800 will do or even the M600
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anyhow my question still stands. will we be able to use the 4.5 stroker parts(crank pistons etc) with the old vq35de? or will it not be compatible?
Old 09-03-2007, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by da45king
heheheh...they threatened to ban me on the G37 forum for that solara comment...
That doesn't surprise me. When the first G37 threads started over there after it was unveiled, some wanna-be's who weren't current G35 coupe owners tried to stifle any negative opinions about the G37. Then the moderator for that forum section (Garnet Canuck ) was grossly biased and inserted his + change against the nay sayers. Apparently my opinions personally offended him and he made some moronic comments towards me. I haven't really spent any time over on G35driver since. There's a lot of smug and bad info over there, IMHO. My350Z is the superior site for G35 owners who are performance enthusiasts.

Anyway... I can't believe how quickly GTM is able to do R&D, let alone a monster build on a G37 before any substantial inventory has even arrived at most Infiniti dealership lots!!! You guys never cease to amaze me, LOL! I'm very interested to see the results of this build Sam & George!!! While I'm having trouble getting past the exterior styling, there is no denying the superior performance and power potential of the G37 powertrain. Now I better understand Sam's response to my last PM inquiring about doing a custom GTM turbo setup for the DE motor. It looks like you have your hands full before SEMA.

BTW, have you guys looked into the possibility of a powertrain swap into a G35 or Z? I would love to have that new engine. Can it physically be done?

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Old 09-04-2007, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rr_z33
anyhow my question still stands. will we be able to use the 4.5 stroker parts(crank pistons etc) with the old vq35de? or will it not be compatible?
There is a 4.2L Stroker kit for the VQ35DE the HR motors get the 4.5L stroker kit.

Thanks,

-George
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by aalzuhair
Well yeah they are about the same except for the 4mb logging option. And its kind of strange for Simon not to recommend the M880, ... I see no reason for that ... At any rate I guess the the M800 will do or even the M600
The newer MoTeC ACL (Advanced Central Logger) is a much better data logging option than even the M880; so the advantage the M880 held over the M800 isn't so much of an advantage anymore, and the M880 connector is still a pain to work with. Bottom line, prefer the M800 to the M880, and get the ACL if you need that much data logging capability.

You could use an M600 to control a VQ, but the M800's additional connections can be useful for, among other things, running high-low injectors.
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Originally Posted by MacGuffin
The newer MoTeC ACL (Advanced Central Logger) is a much better data logging option than even the M880; so the advantage the M880 held over the M800 isn't so much of an advantage anymore, and the M880 connector is still a pain to work with. Bottom line, prefer the M800 to the M880, and get the ACL if you need that much data logging capability.

You could use an M600 to control a VQ, but the M800's additional connections can be useful for, among other things, running high-low injectors.
Not to mention compatibility with any future cars that you can use it in. That's wy Motec is so appealing, you can use it on your next car!

M800 is a definite advantage over the M600 since it comes with the advanced functions option, which if purchased with the M600 would pout it withing $200 of the M800, hence the latter is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
There is a 4.2L Stroker kit for the VQ35DE the HR motors get the 4.5L stroker kit.

Thanks,

-George
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Can you make the 4.2 NA? Sorry for the off the wall question

Chris
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Originally Posted by GurgenPB
Not to mention compatibility with any future cars that you can use it in. That's wy Motec is so appealing, you can use it on your next car!

M800 is a definite advantage over the M600 since it comes with the advanced functions option, which if purchased with the M600 would pout it withing $200 of the M800, hence the latter is the way to go.

The m600 also is only compatible with 4 and 6 cyclinders. The 800 is good for 4,6 and 8 cyclinder vehicles.


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