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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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thanks for that peter.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by APS

Mark I think it's more prudent and wiser to conduct the actual engineering work on the wastegate designs and operation rather than making a generic comment, what may prove to be true in one application may not prove to be true in another application



In short no. Water cooling the turbos bearing housing is the Ultimate solution for all high performance Gasoline turbochargers (this is the exact reason why all Garrett GT series turbos utilise water cooled bearing housings) this eliminates the need to idle down the turbochargers as the engine coolant continues to thermo syphon via the turbochargers after engine shut down, it's all good.

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Good to hear about the option to go larger on the APS kit; that's the first I've heard that.
Not sure what you meant by the first quoted comment. I'm not trying to sell either kit; just get some info out of you. The point of these threads (and my comments) isn't to try to disprove your research and testing but merely to discuss the practicalities in certain situtations of one kit versus another. It's all theoretical since I don't know many guys with APS turbo kit OR SFR running 20 psi+ yet. How high have you guys run your kit on a Z? (out of curiosity)
On the second part; yes I am very aware of how great GT turbos are and their need (and advantage) of water cooling. I guess I should have stressed the "serial " portion of the question.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by QuantumZ

It's all theoretical since I don't know many guys with APS turbo kit OR SFR running 20 psi+ yet. How high have you guys run your kit on a Z? (out of curiosity)
Correct it's totally theoretical until the engineering is complete and proven............that's why it's wise not to make generic comments about wastegate design and type until tested and proven.

The APS engineering staff have conducted some testing at 1.5 bar positive pressure though in reality high power is all about mass air flow v pressure ratio, not just pressure ratio.

Turbochargers are designed to have a certain mass air flow for a given pressure ratio, the stock APS/Garrett dual ball bearing turbos in the APS TT system have sufficent mass air flow to suppport appoximately 800 Horsepower.

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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by APS
Correct it's totally theoretical until the engineering is complete and proven............that's why it's wise not to make generic comments about wastegate design and type until tested and proven.

The APS engineering staff have conducted some testing at 1.5 bar positive pressure though in reality high power is all about mass air flow v pressure ratio, not just pressure ratio.

Turbochargers are designed to have a certain mass air flow for a given pressure ratio, the stock APS/Garrett dual ball bearing turbos in the APS TT system have sufficent mass air flow to suppport appoximately 800 Horsepower.

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Sorry to hi-jack the thread but , hey Peter any progress to report on your G35 port?
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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A couple of questions I haven't seen asked are: What type of install is to be expected from this kit? Could you install it yourself? What would be expected install time (from a shop and/or installing it yourself)?
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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i wouldn't expect to hear anything back about the G35's kit until they get back from vacation and the engineers get some time to play with and test the kit out on a G35. hopefully they will be able to give some info by the end of the month. keep your fingers crossed, i am.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by damen
i wouldn't expect to hear anything back about the G35's kit until they get back from vacation and the engineers get some time to play with and test the kit out on a G35. hopefully they will be able to give some info by the end of the month. keep your fingers crossed, i am.
You mean 350Z, the G35 kit has been out. They are done with the 350Z kit as well, look at the title.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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You mean 350Z, the G35 kit has been out. They are done with the 350Z kit as well, look at the title.
Yeh I know the SSR kit for G35 has been out for a while, I apologetically asked Peter a "hi-jack" question about the APS
G kit progress. I'm not sure APS even has received theirUS G yet for fitment and I got a built long block awaiting a TT kit and an install. tap, tap , tap... SSR is not pursuing CARB , and hence is not under my consideration, since I smack dab in Cali.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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i wouldn't expect to hear anything back about the G35's kit until they get back from vacation and the engineers get some time to play with and test the kit out on a G35. hopefully they will be able to give some info by the end of the month. keep your fingers crossed, i am.
they should've been back from vacation a week now, what can I say I'm and impatient bastard
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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Does anyone think the tubular stainless headers may fail (break or crack)? With the turbos moutned so far back I've been told my several people that the manifolds are the weak point. That is my only concern as of right now. Otherwise I really like the kit and the amount of engineering put into it.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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they should've been back from vacation a week now, what can I say I'm and impatient bastard
i think they come back on the 17th of jan.

if they don't have their G35 yet, they should be getting it soon. hopefully anyway.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Nissan350ZTT
You mean 350Z, the G35 kit has been out. They are done with the 350Z kit as well, look at the title.
sorry about that. yeah i was replying to his hi jack question about the APS TT kit for the G35.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by KPierson
Does anyone think the tubular stainless headers may fail (break or crack)? With the turbos moutned so far back I've been told my several people that the manifolds are the weak point. That is my only concern as of right now. Otherwise I really like the kit and the amount of engineering put into it.
i spoke to someone else about that and it was mentioned that the manifolds are supported so cracking shouldn't be a problem with cracking. some are even suggesting jet hot coating the manifolds.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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damen and g3po, sorry about that, g3po, I was referring to damen, and it turns out damen was referring to you, LOL, big mix-up.

And about the manifolds, as long as they use the right material it should be no problem.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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no problem, don't worry about it.
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by damen
i spoke to someone else about that and it was mentioned that the manifolds are supported so cracking shouldn't be a problem with cracking. some are even suggesting jet hot coating the manifolds.
Jet hot coatings will provide little benefit since we use 321 SS and it has all the heat retention properties as say a cast manifold with a ceramic coating.

Also the manifolds are supported, and even if they do crack we will replace it for free under our life-time warranty.
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by SSR Engineering
Jet hot coatings will provide little benefit since we use 321 SS and it has all the heat retention properties as say a cast manifold with a ceramic coating.

Also the manifolds are supported, and even if they do crack we will replace it for free under our life-time warranty.
Bump for answers about the installing, and another question, could you use any tuning module for this kit?
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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that's what i was wondering because one tuner was suggesting to use the E-manage.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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