suspension opinions from socal Z's
suspension opinions from socal Z's
any one have personal experiences with tanabe nf210 with tokico d-specs? i'm looking to do this soon but just wanted to research it before i do because i'm also considering a coilover setup.
Originally Posted by JJ19
any one have personal experiences with tanabe nf210 with tokico d-specs? i'm looking to do this soon but just wanted to research it before i do because i'm also considering a coilover setup.
Originally Posted by TimeAttkZ
Just go for the tein basics instead.
you're gonna need to get new shocks anyways after you prematurely wear out the stock struts and then you'll need to spend 400-600 dollars on new shocks, add that to the 200 dollar springs and for that price you could've had the basics and be adjustable...
im getting tein basics pretty soon...
Originally Posted by Myfirst06350Z
What are your goals for the car? Just looks or performance?
Originally Posted by ginobetterfly
+1
you're gonna need to get new shocks anyways after you prematurely wear out the stock struts and then you'll need to spend 400-600 dollars on new shocks, add that to the 200 dollar springs and for that price you could've had the basics and be adjustable...
im getting tein basics pretty soon...
you're gonna need to get new shocks anyways after you prematurely wear out the stock struts and then you'll need to spend 400-600 dollars on new shocks, add that to the 200 dollar springs and for that price you could've had the basics and be adjustable...
im getting tein basics pretty soon...
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depending on your budget, many suspension companies do offer entry level type of suspension as well ones for pretty hard core performance....
if you were happy with your springs already get some konis but for that price i would get probably tein basics as everyone else suggested
depending on your budget, many suspension companies do offer entry level type of suspension as well ones for pretty hard core performance....
if you were happy with your springs already get some konis but for that price i would get probably tein basics as everyone else suggested
Originally Posted by ginobetterfly
+1
you're gonna need to get new shocks anyways after you prematurely wear out the stock struts and then you'll need to spend 400-600 dollars on new shocks, add that to the 200 dollar springs and for that price you could've had the basics and be adjustable...
im getting tein basics pretty soon...
you're gonna need to get new shocks anyways after you prematurely wear out the stock struts and then you'll need to spend 400-600 dollars on new shocks, add that to the 200 dollar springs and for that price you could've had the basics and be adjustable...
im getting tein basics pretty soon...
Huh???
JJ19, I've been running the Tanabe springs for around 30k miles, no issues. Just prioritize what your going for and then the selection is pretty easy.
Originally Posted by Zrolimit
Huh???
JJ19, I've been running the Tanabe springs for around 30k miles, no issues. Just prioritize what your going for and then the selection is pretty easy.
JJ19, I've been running the Tanabe springs for around 30k miles, no issues. Just prioritize what your going for and then the selection is pretty easy.
INSTALLING LOWERING SPRINGS WILL RESULT IN THE STOCK SHOCKS TO ALWAYS BE IN SOMEWHAT COMPRESSED STATE (CERTAIN SPRINGS WILL RESULT IN A GREATER COMPRESSION OF THE SHOCKS THAN OTHERS, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF DROP)... THE LOWERING SPRING WILL DECREASE THE SHOCK STROKE LENGTH AND THE SHOCK WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEWHAT COMPRESSED... THIS IS BAD, AND WILL LEAD TO A PREMATURE FAILURE OF THE STOCK SHOCKS.
more reading: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....wering+springs (and theres millions of threads on here that talk about this)
So what i was saying is, it makes more sense (even though I didnt do this) to get the springs AND the replacement shocks all at the same time, OR for that price you might as well get basic coilovers ($800-$1000) and have adjustability...
Oh yeah, and i dont believe that you have "no issues" with your stock shocks after having lowering springs on for 30,000 miles... you have to be bouncing all over the place on the road.. but then again, this might not be an "issue" to you...
Last edited by ginobetterfly; Mar 25, 2008 at 03:05 PM.
Originally Posted by ginobetterfly
wow... ill try again...
INSTALLING LOWERING SPRINGS WILL RESULT IN THE STOCK SHOCKS TO ALWAYS BE IN SOMEWHAT COMPRESSED STATE (CERTAIN SPRINGS WILL RESULT IN A GREATER COMPRESSION OF THE SHOCKS THAN OTHERS, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF DROP)... THE LOWERING SPRING WILL DECREASE THE SHOCK STROKE LENGTH AND THE SHOCK WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEWHAT COMPRESSED... THIS IS BAD, AND WILL LEAD TO A PREMATURE FAILURE OF THE STOCK SHOCKS.
more reading: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....wering+springs (and theres millions of threads on here that talk about this)
So what i was saying is, it makes more sense (even though I didnt do this) to get the springs AND the replacement shocks all at the same time, OR for that price you might as well get basic coilovers ($800-$1000) and have adjustability...
Oh yeah, and i dont believe that you have "no issues" with your stock shocks after having lowering springs on for 30,000 miles... you have to be bouncing all over the place on the road.. but then again, this might not be an "issue" to you...
INSTALLING LOWERING SPRINGS WILL RESULT IN THE STOCK SHOCKS TO ALWAYS BE IN SOMEWHAT COMPRESSED STATE (CERTAIN SPRINGS WILL RESULT IN A GREATER COMPRESSION OF THE SHOCKS THAN OTHERS, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF DROP)... THE LOWERING SPRING WILL DECREASE THE SHOCK STROKE LENGTH AND THE SHOCK WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEWHAT COMPRESSED... THIS IS BAD, AND WILL LEAD TO A PREMATURE FAILURE OF THE STOCK SHOCKS.
more reading: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....wering+springs (and theres millions of threads on here that talk about this)
So what i was saying is, it makes more sense (even though I didnt do this) to get the springs AND the replacement shocks all at the same time, OR for that price you might as well get basic coilovers ($800-$1000) and have adjustability...
Oh yeah, and i dont believe that you have "no issues" with your stock shocks after having lowering springs on for 30,000 miles... you have to be bouncing all over the place on the road.. but then again, this might not be an "issue" to you...
Originally Posted by 05 PPW Z33
Their is so many nice brands that offer lowering springs for variety application for between $200-$400. A good shock and spring package makes a world of difference in how your car performs. It can be daunting to pick out the right spring and shock combination for you car, to make your life easier, consider the following:
Generally, your range of adjustment will be 0.5 to 2 inches using traditional lowering springs. Any lower, and you will need to adjust the height of the perch itself by using a ride-height adjustable coilover suspension.
Failing to heed this warning will result in a number of negative consequences:
Shock absorbers will fail quickly because they won't be able to cope with such a narrow and harsh range of compression and rebound stroke.
Your car will suffer from ferocious bump steer (when the car jumps sideways mid-corner as it encounters a bump or dip in the road) as your suspension bottoms out (literally runs out of available travel) and contacts the bump stops with every road imperfection and undulation.
I hope that wasn't too overwhelming. Oh and you need to get your car's suspension aligned after installing lowering springs.
Generally, your range of adjustment will be 0.5 to 2 inches using traditional lowering springs. Any lower, and you will need to adjust the height of the perch itself by using a ride-height adjustable coilover suspension.
Failing to heed this warning will result in a number of negative consequences:
Shock absorbers will fail quickly because they won't be able to cope with such a narrow and harsh range of compression and rebound stroke.
Your car will suffer from ferocious bump steer (when the car jumps sideways mid-corner as it encounters a bump or dip in the road) as your suspension bottoms out (literally runs out of available travel) and contacts the bump stops with every road imperfection and undulation.
I hope that wasn't too overwhelming. Oh and you need to get your car's suspension aligned after installing lowering springs.
BTW....there's no need to be so damn arrogant.
Last edited by Zrolimit; Mar 25, 2008 at 04:03 PM.
Originally Posted by Zrolimit
Do you always respond like this when someone asks a question? If you happen to show up to one of our upcoming workshops I'll let you drive my Z and then you can judge whether I have "no issues". I wasn't disagreeing with your original post it's just that I hadn't heard of any issues with the lowering springs and after reading that post I'm still under the impression that there aren't that many problems. Try this link: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....pring+problems
Most lowering springs drop the ride height from .5 to 2 inches and I have yet to see any that go lower than that. Adverse affects will be caused by lowering below that in the quote above.
BTW....there's no need to be so damn arrogant.
Most lowering springs drop the ride height from .5 to 2 inches and I have yet to see any that go lower than that. Adverse affects will be caused by lowering below that in the quote above.
BTW....there's no need to be so damn arrogant.
" reply to be a bit annoying...back on topic... im confused why you posted that link and quote... in the quote (2nd paragraph) it seems that the guy is justifying what i said about the stock shocks failing prematurely... let me read it again..
EDIT: ok i see what you're saying... although i will argue that the "warning" mentioned there should apply to EVERY person that drops their car more than .8" (with stock shocks), and not just for the people that are going over 2" of drop
Last edited by ginobetterfly; Mar 25, 2008 at 04:17 PM.
Originally Posted by ginobetterfly
sorry i did not mean to come off as arrogant or put you down or anything like that, but i must say, i did find your "Huh???? " reply to be a bit annoying...
back on topic... im confused why you posted that link and quote... in the quote (2nd paragraph) it seems that the guy is justifying what i said about the stock shocks failing prematurely... let me read it again..
EDIT: ok i see what you're saying... although i will argue that the "warning" mentioned there should apply to EVERY person that drops their car more than .8" (with stock shocks), and not just for the people that are going over 2" of drop
" reply to be a bit annoying...back on topic... im confused why you posted that link and quote... in the quote (2nd paragraph) it seems that the guy is justifying what i said about the stock shocks failing prematurely... let me read it again..
EDIT: ok i see what you're saying... although i will argue that the "warning" mentioned there should apply to EVERY person that drops their car more than .8" (with stock shocks), and not just for the people that are going over 2" of drop
PPW Z33 was saying that if you go lower than 2 inches then you run the risk of prematurely wearing-out the strut which I agree with. The question is "are there lowering springs out there that lower more than 2 inches?" JJ19 has already mentioned he just wants an overall better ride with a little bit of drop. I just don't see the need to spend $800+ for a coilover kit unless he wants to drop it below that or he plans on tracking the car which he has said he is going to do neither. It's just his daily driver and the only thing he really needs to worry about is tire feathering after installing the springs.
J119,
Here's what we need from you to help out. Fill this out below with your answers:
What's your price range?
What is your desired drop after install?
Do you want a more comfortable ride?
Do you want adjustability of spring rates and ride height?
Gino,
Please add anything that I might of missed to the list so we can help this guy out.
Originally Posted by Zrolimit
J119,
Here's what we need from you to help out. Fill this out below with your answers:
What's your price range?
What is your desired drop after install?
Do you want a more comfortable ride?
Do you want adjustability of spring rates and ride height?
Here's what we need from you to help out. Fill this out below with your answers:
What's your price range?
What is your desired drop after install?
Do you want a more comfortable ride?
Do you want adjustability of spring rates and ride height?
*desired drop is 1.2 front and 1.2 rear
*i'm looking for a ride close to stock if not better. an added plus would be increased responsiveness with less roll
*don't care about ride height adjustibility, but i do want to be able to adjust the settings on the shocks
Btw, i plan to replace both shocks/springs at the same time.
i think you're asking the OP all the right questions... i have nothing to add to that really..
I STILL think though that if the OP decides to get ANY lowering springs, he will be replacing his stock shocks alot sooner than expected.. how soon, i dont know...
My experience: I have the Hotchkis springs which is a very very MILD drop... and already i am BARELLY within the camber spec, and this is after alignment and my rear tires are sitting like this /---\ , and i believe that i will need to replace the stock shocks pretty soon... on top of that i am convinced that i want to go lower and more aggresive than what i have, and if i had the adjustable coilovers this wouldnt be a problem... SO, from MY experience, if I was to do it over again, I would just do it right from the get go and get a basic ADJUSTABLE coilover set... my two cents
I STILL think though that if the OP decides to get ANY lowering springs, he will be replacing his stock shocks alot sooner than expected.. how soon, i dont know...
My experience: I have the Hotchkis springs which is a very very MILD drop... and already i am BARELLY within the camber spec, and this is after alignment and my rear tires are sitting like this /---\ , and i believe that i will need to replace the stock shocks pretty soon... on top of that i am convinced that i want to go lower and more aggresive than what i have, and if i had the adjustable coilovers this wouldnt be a problem... SO, from MY experience, if I was to do it over again, I would just do it right from the get go and get a basic ADJUSTABLE coilover set... my two cents