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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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I recently purchased my 3rd car which I use for business. It's the Infiniti M45 in my sig. I still have both my Sentra and my Z and I have noticed that I barely use my Z at all especially as it hangs out at my parent's place. I love the car and will never sell it but it is being under-utilized. With that being said, I want to use it for what it was made for- racing.

Some people may remember my horror story a few years back of when my car was broken in to by the police and my car had a turbo system on it which is illegal in California. It cost me roughly $1,700 to take everything off and then I had to get it inspected by the state. Being the stubborn guy that I am, I put the kit back on.

I had an idea last night as I am deathly afraid of getting caught with the system on the car again: Have the car registered as an off-road vehicle only which will make having the kit on the car perfectly legal.

Despite being an 'off-road' registered vehicle, every once in awhile, I will probably take the car out for a spin and what not. I do run the risk of getting pulled over for having the car on a highway, street or road i.e. 'on-road' but the ticket and the penalty for that should be much less rather than me getting a ticket for the turbo and also forced to take off my whole entire system.

Eventually, I plan to question some police officers who I know about this idea to see what the potential repercussions of this are but wanted to ask the people on this board to think if this is a decent idea or if they have any first or second-hand experience with this issue.

So what do you guys think? Is it a decent alternative?
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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I guess you have to register the Z as a non-operating. But this means legally you cannot drive the car on public roads until you re-register the car. Dunno what the fines are if you get caught though.

If my Z was turbocharged I would register it as a non-op and get some track time with it.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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Non op the car and trailer it to the track. You do not want to get caught with a non op car on the street. If you do feel like driving it on the street for a day or two, just get a moving permit from DMV, but the car will need to be insured.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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I may be wrong but I believe if you register it plan non op then you cant even have it parked on a public street. you may want to think about that if it applies to you. If you have a garage to park it in then don't worry about it.
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Thanks guys for the input. I am astill doing research and unfortunately I am still up in the air. I called Sam at GT Motorsports to ask him for his advice as he used to work at a smog shop and he usually knows the basic traffic laws. Overall, he feels it is a bad idea because if I am pulled over as a non-op or off-highway, I could possibly get towed which I already considered.

I asked him about his customers who are modding their cars in California and to my surprise, he says that almost all of his California business has died! He said 90+% of his clientele are from out-of-state where the modding laws are more relaxed.

My main concern is that in the distant future, I want to eventually do a complete build on my Z and trck it but also use it every once-in-awhile on the streets. Hopefully I will have an answer by then.

As for non-oping or off-highway, the Z is parked at my parent's so no problem there.
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Get a Vortech, lol

But seriously I feel you....I would have put a turbo on my car if there was a CARB legal turbo kit....I have to get by with my heavily modified Vortech....if a cop tells me to pop the hood I at least have a CARB number to work with...
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
Overall, he feels it is a bad idea because if I am pulled over as a non-op or off-highway, I could possibly get towed which I already considered.
This will happen.
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register the car in a different state
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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Move.
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Originally Posted by 350z006
Get a Vortech, lol

But seriously I feel you....I would have put a turbo on my car if there was a CARB legal turbo kit....I have to get by with my heavily modified Vortech....if a cop tells me to pop the hood I at least have a CARB number to work with...
I was thinking about the Vortech. Matter'fact, when I was originally thinking about going FI back in 2005, Vortech was my first choice but I didn't like the idea of parasitic loss of power. I also didn't like the idea about having to tighten the cog belts every once in awhile compared to a turbo's drive-and-forget style.

I see you are in Long Beach- I am in Long Beach, too close to PCH and Junipero (near the traffic circle). Do you wanna get together someday so we can check out each other's cars? I would love to see your Vortech set-up as I may have to go that route in the future.
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Originally Posted by CRIDDA
register the car in a different state
I know of this route also. I do have friends that live out-of-state. I may do this but I need to research how I am supposed to get the car smogged and what not as well as paper work.
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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
Move.
Thought about this too but for me to move for just smog reasons is a bit much. Luckily, what I do for work can survive in other states so it's a possibiilty but the last one especially as I just bought my first home about a year ago here.
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Witty come out and work in the Queens office
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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Witty come out and work in the Queens office
Might not be a bad idea. The NY office guys gete a lot of freight probably because the competition is less fierce out there. I would love to show them-up.
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Other ideas I have had are to do a 4.2 liter all-motor conversion or perhaps get 4.5 liter custom made pistons, sleeves, rings, etc etc.

I could also get the VK45DE engine put in as well. I have also thought about coupling the GTM 4.2 stroker kit or the custom 4.5 liter internals with a Vortech S/C. These thoughts are all in their infancy so I have no knowledge on how difficult these may be especially when you take in to account the electronics.
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Yeah sure...I usually take my dogs out to the marina by Joe's Crab Shack, I don't mind taking my garage queen out....


Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
I was thinking about the Vortech. Matter'fact, when I was originally thinking about going FI back in 2005, Vortech was my first choice but I didn't like the idea of parasitic loss of power. I also didn't like the idea about having to tighten the cog belts every once in awhile compared to a turbo's drive-and-forget style.

I see you are in Long Beach- I am in Long Beach, too close to PCH and Junipero (near the traffic circle). Do you wanna get together someday so we can check out each other's cars? I would love to see your Vortech set-up as I may have to go that route in the future.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 350z006
Yeah sure...I usually take my dogs out to the marina by Joe's Crab Shack, I don't mind taking my garage queen out....
Great. I am going to send you a PM with my cell #. Hit me back with yours so we can set-up a day and time.

Also, I have a request, 006. Could you either take me for a ride in your car or if you trust me enough, perhaps let me drive it a little? If you did let me drive it, I want to let you know that I take good care of my cars and tend to baby them. I would like to see what your car feels like from a roll and basically gradually push it up through the rev band to perhaps 5k or so.

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Man date
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Man date
Jealous?
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Get a vette, you'll never worry about power & the police won't bother you.
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