and also the car was in their responsibility... the only thing they had to do was change the oil and not mess up ur new ride... it should be their fault because you also told them that u had the alarm system and you told them what buttons to push and which ones not to push... but that one guy that said basically not being a dick to them about it is right. just be polite and persistant to them so it can increase the chances of them fixing ur ride with nothing comin out of ur pocket... good luck

 

well i asked why they didnt lift the ebrake and they said that since it was on a flat road, they always keep their cars in gear and keep the ebrake down. but when i was looking at the new z's in their lot all of them had their ebrake up...im a little iffy about this

 

Im about to install my Clifford g5...on this alarm you can hook up the remote start but for it to work you have to go through a disarm process while the car is running in neutral with the brake up...

 

hey also i notice once i got my alarm installed, my tps light came on and they couldn't seem to figure out what it was...any clues?

 

I can only think of 1 person.

 

I thought by law you have to pull the hand brake... some cop told me that. he said that you could get a ticket even if the ground is flat, he told me you have to keep the car in gear and the hand brake has to be pulled up or you could get a fine for it. i know it sounds gay but see if they could use it to your advantage. i honestly would fight that because that is their fault and you had nothing to do with it. those mother****ers dont realize that what they did. bottom line, they did the damage they should pay for it.

 

You guys should all stop guessing and let a lawyer take care of it. I don't think remote start is illegal on a manual car in TX. The other guy is in Virginia I believe and everything is illegal in Virginia. It is illegal to have a radar detector in Virginia. Just get a lawyer and let him do the work. I am convinced you don't owe a thing.

 

ur right they knw it the best

 

i already emailed the texas hammer (jim adler) so hopefully he can help me get out of this bind...i also had my insurance adjuster take a look at the car yesterday and he said that a lot of the stuff on the car is repairable and that he'll only give me $2324.20 to fix it...i got quoted $4600-$5000! and they will not replace the rim, instead give me $175 to take it to wheels of america and get it refinished, has anyone taken their rims to that place? I would preferably take it to saabs but they DO NOT work on single piece rims. Oh and I took the pics on my girlfriends cam...I'll have them up hopefully this weekend. Man I hope my car is finished by the end of the month because I wanna take it out on June 3rd to the Galveston run. =[

 

good luck with everything pony...hope to see you at the cruise

 

There is a law that says you can not put a alarm on a standard car without a safety switch hooked up to either the parking brake light or transmission gear select (so it knows its in neutral) and the parking brake is on so it doesn't start. If they didn't install it this way, the place can be held liable.

 

You can but not the clutch. Nissans have a sensor wire that senses on the transmission itself when its in gear or not. It goes I believe 5v one way and no voltage the other way. So they just have to hook it up. If 5v is when its in neutral, then it tells the alarm it can start.

 

Ugh, that sucks. Interesting thing I foung while searching for laws regarding remote start and manual transmission (came up empty searching Texas statutes), but I did find this little tidbit (sorry about inlining this, but no easy link to selcted text is available). Bottom line is, no logging allowed if they don't tell you in the owners manual.

§ 547.615. RECORDING DEVICES. (a) In this section:
(1) "Owner" means a person who:
(A) has all the incidents of ownership of a motor
vehicle, including legal title, regardless of whether the person
lends, rents, or creates a security interest in the vehicle;
(B) is entitled to possession of a motor vehicle
as a purchaser under a security agreement; or
(C) is entitled to possession of a motor vehicle
as a lessee under a written lease agreement if the agreement is for
a period of not less than three months.
(2) "Recording device" means a feature that is
installed by the manufacturer in a motor vehicle and that does any
of the following for the purpose of retrieving information from the
vehicle after an accident in which the vehicle has been involved:
(A) records the speed and direction the vehicle
is traveling;
(B) records vehicle location data;
(C) records steering performance;
(D) records brake performance, including
information on whether brakes were applied before an accident;
(E) records the driver's safety belt status; or
(F) transmits information concerning the
accident to a central communications system when the accident
occurs.
(b) A manufacturer of a new motor vehicle that is sold or
leased in this state and that is equipped with a recording device
shall disclose that fact in the owner's manual of the vehicle.
(c) Information recorded or transmitted by a recording
device may not be retrieved by a person other than the owner of the
motor vehicle in which the recording device is installed except:
(1) on court order;
(2) with the consent of the owner for any purpose,
including for the purpose of diagnosing, servicing, or repairing
the motor vehicle;
(3) for the purpose of improving motor vehicle safety,
including for medical research on the human body's reaction to
motor vehicle accidents, if the identity of the owner or driver of
the vehicle is not disclosed in connection with the retrieved
information; or
(4) for the purpose of determining the need for or
facilitating emergency medical response in the event of a motor
vehicle accident.
(d) For information recorded or transmitted by a recording
device described by Subsection (a)(2)(B), a court order may be
obtained only after a showing that:
(1) retrieval of the information is necessary to
protect the public safety; or
(2) the information is evidence of an offense or
constitutes evidence that a particular person committed an offense.
(e) For the purposes of Subsection (c)(3):
(1) disclosure of a motor vehicle's vehicle
identification number with the last six digits deleted or redacted
is not disclosure of the identity of the owner or driver; and
(2) retrieved information may be disclosed only:
(A) for the purposes of motor vehicle safety and
medical research communities to advance the purposes described in
Subsection (c)(3); or
(B) to a data processor solely for the purposes
described in Subsection (c)(3).
(f) If a recording device is used as part of a subscription
service, the subscription service agreement must disclose that the
device may record or transmit information as described by
Subsection (a)(2). Subsection (c) does not apply to a subscription
service under this subsection.

Added by Acts 2005, 79th Leg., ch. 910, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 2005.

 

damn all i can say is that sucks... love the dealerships right..? hah

 

No, bro. F*CK their first offer. The car is not even a year old so it is brand new and requires brand new parts not fixed parts. If it was over a year old then you could have to argue but not for this. If it comes down to it, just tell them you don't care how they fix it. Drop it off at a shop that likes to use new parts and tell them to deal with insurance. NEW, bro, NEW. Don't settle for that $h1t.

 

all remote start systems should be equipped with a valet switch, for situations just like this. All it usually takes is putting the key in then pushing the valet button.

Hope everything works out in your favor though, if it was under their hands there is no reason you should pay.

 

my clifford has an unarming process and has to be turned off while running for it to use the remote start up...wheels america does good work, ive had them fix a few wheels before