Notices
Tuning Reflashes, Piggybacks, Standalone ECUs

UTEC 'Upgrade?'

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 8, 2006 | 01:09 PM
  #41  
aalzuhair's Avatar
aalzuhair
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,295
Likes: 0
From: Riyadh, SA
Default

Thanks Jason for joining ... can't wait for the software
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 01:34 PM
  #42  
35ounces's Avatar
35ounces
03 CS Track 6MT
Premier Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default

logs sent
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 01:55 PM
  #43  
ACEMAN's Avatar
ACEMAN
Master
Premier Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,774
Likes: 2
From: Hagerstown MD
Default

Got the ball rolling on this software back in April. I am testing it out now. Works pretty good so far. Needs to be updated alittle more to work with the 350z. But all in all great job on his part.

http://www.dezignduo.com/UTI/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=118

http://www.dezignduo.com/UTI/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=127

You will need to create a user name to down load the file for the 350z.

Later
Aceman
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 02:01 PM
  #44  
KPierson's Avatar
KPierson
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,128
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, OH
Default

Jason,

Welcome to the boards!

As I posted at the beginning, the EVO settings all work fine, I can read vacuum/boost, AEM wideband, RPM, TPS, Timing, MAF (voltage, NOT Hz), and inj. duty cycle.

Although the dashboard shows the unit of measure to be Hz for the MAf the correct voltage is displayed (as compared to the voltage in Hyperterminal).

Also, we do not have a stock MAP sensor, so the guage constantly reads 0 for it. Finally, I noticed that in the logging tables, under vacuum, that any negative number had a - sign before each digit of each particular number (ie -1.4 reads -1.-4). Other then that, I have made several logs from the software and it works great!


Originally Posted by jmussetter
Hi guys, thank for bringing this forum to my attention. I have gotten several emails from some of you recently and they all pointed me here, so I figured this to be the best place to respond to everyone.

I am the author of the MPS_UTECLogger software.


This is true, however I wan't on these boards, but I did search around for posted logs samples which I came up empty handed. The ZUtec was pretty new, and all the searches ended up at a e-store who sold the utec but not any hits to someone who owned one that could send me logs.


If someone were to send me logs (comma delimited format- aka Shift+1), along with the breakdown of all the column headers in order, it would be a good start to getting a ZUtec specific support added to the program.
Send log samples to UTECLogger@mpsav.com

The stock OEM WB O2 probably wouldn't be supported, because to be honest, they are not all that accurate, and I wouldn't tune to one for anything. You guys may have a better one than the Suby's are equipped with, but the WRX WB O2 sensors are reportedly 'only' good down to 12.0:1 AFR. However, personally, I wouldn't trust it with anything richer than 13.5:1 with my experience of comparing OEM sensor AFR (as reported by the UTEC) and a true WB like the LM-1 side by side.

-jason
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 03:39 PM
  #45  
USED's Avatar
USED
Registered User
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
From: NorCal
Default

I'll try the EVO8 version tomorrow on a UTEC dyno tune and cross it against the UTEC logs and the DynaPack logs. Update pending.

Someone please sticky this thread.
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 05:04 PM
  #46  
Midnyte's Avatar
Midnyte
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
Default

we're gonna get our own version....SWEEEEEET!
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 06:54 PM
  #47  
Havok_RLS2's Avatar
Havok_RLS2
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,384
Likes: 0
From: Bowie, MD
Default

Originally Posted by jmussetter
Hi guys, thank for bringing this forum to my attention. I have gotten several emails from some of you recently and they all pointed me here, so I figured this to be the best place to respond to everyone.

I am the author of the MPS_UTECLogger software.


This is true, however I wan't on these boards, but I did search around for posted logs samples which I came up empty handed. The ZUtec was pretty new, and all the searches ended up at a e-store who sold the utec but not any hits to someone who owned one that could send me logs.


If someone were to send me logs (comma delimited format- aka Shift+1), along with the breakdown of all the column headers in order, it would be a good start to getting a ZUtec specific support added to the program.
Send log samples to UTECLogger@mpsav.com

The stock OEM WB O2 probably wouldn't be supported, because to be honest, they are not all that accurate, and I wouldn't tune to one for anything. You guys may have a better one than the Suby's are equipped with, but the WRX WB O2 sensors are reportedly 'only' good down to 12.0:1 AFR. However, personally, I wouldn't trust it with anything richer than 13.5:1 with my experience of comparing OEM sensor AFR (as reported by the UTEC) and a true WB like the LM-1 side by side.

-jason
Outstanding!!! Welcome to the forums Jason. Looking forward to sharing our Z knowledge with you and learning new things from you as well. Your software came to our attention a very sort time ago and as you can see it's already cause quite a welcomed stir from our UTEC owners and tuners. Thanks you so very much for creating such a wonderful and powerful UTEC tuning tool. Looking forward to your Z updates.
Reply
Old May 9, 2006 | 10:23 AM
  #48  
jmussetter's Avatar
jmussetter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome here...

35ounces: logs sent
Thanks, I got them.

-jason
Reply
Old May 9, 2006 | 01:01 PM
  #49  
USED's Avatar
USED
Registered User
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
From: NorCal
Default

My findings:

The MPS software for the EVO 8 will log properly as noted by others.

When using the TXS gen 2 tuner box with UTEC, the MPS logger will not display AFR in the log map or gauge display. It will only display the AFR info in the Realtime UTEC log window when the tuner box is connected as intended to work w/ the UTEC only (output to laptop via R12-to-serial connector from tuner box gen 2).

It should display the AFR info in the log map/gauge display if it is inputed directly on a seperate com port. I do not have the correct connectors to attemp that right now.

It would be great if it could be configured to work directly w/ just the output from the R12-to-serial connector. One less input = one less cable.

I'll have to play with it more when I get a chance.
Reply
Old May 9, 2006 | 01:50 PM
  #50  
jmussetter's Avatar
jmussetter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

It should display the AFR info in the log map/gauge display if it is inputed directly on a seperate com port. I do not have the correct connectors to attemp that right now.
That's right, it only supports connecting them seperately right now. The next version, I'm trying to implement the ability to do a UTEC->Tuner inline connection. I have to re-write some of the original core code though, because it was originally designed to be bridging software only.

Hopefully inline connection of the Tuner and UTEC will be suported in the same release as the 350z addition.

-jason
Reply
Old May 9, 2006 | 02:26 PM
  #51  
KPierson's Avatar
KPierson
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,128
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, OH
Default

Any chance that with the new release you'll actually be able to tune the UTEC directly? Its rather cumbersome to continuley shut down the logging software to start the tuning software then shut down the tuning software to go back to the logging software!
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 03:39 PM
  #52  
Havok_RLS2's Avatar
Havok_RLS2
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,384
Likes: 0
From: Bowie, MD
Default

Originally Posted by KPierson
Any chance that with the new release you'll actually be able to tune the UTEC directly? Its rather cumbersome to continuley shut down the logging software to start the tuning software then shut down the tuning software to go back to the logging software!
Now that would just be awsome!
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 04:39 PM
  #53  
gringott's Avatar
gringott
New Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,460
Likes: 18
From: Kentucky
Default

Nice if it could use both the Tuner GEN 2 AFR and the AEM - so I can log AFR from both sides of the engine.
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 07:12 PM
  #54  
MurphysZ's Avatar
MurphysZ
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 451
Likes: 1
From: Westminster MD
Default

This is making it easy to justify buying a UTEC.....Keep us updated.
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 11:56 PM
  #55  
Havok_RLS2's Avatar
Havok_RLS2
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,384
Likes: 0
From: Bowie, MD
Default

Lets try to keep this thread alive as long as possible and not allow the software to fall through the cracks. If you have any new information from testing that maybe useful to the rest of our forum members... Please post it.
If your a software programer that has gotten a chance to take a closer look at the software and you have ideas that may improve some functions of the program.... Please post it.

If you're a newb with a stupid question because you either don't know what this software does and have on idea what the UTEC is. Don't post it. Use the search function.
Reply
Old May 12, 2006 | 06:08 AM
  #56  
KPierson's Avatar
KPierson
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,128
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, OH
Default

On a somewhat related note, has anyone been able to successfully use the USB cable to program the UTEC?

I'm thinking that if I attempt to make the USB connection work then I can use the MPS software on my comm ports and the UTEC software on my USB port, which would prevent me from having to shut one down to use the other.

The downside is I will have to dig up a USB cable, and I'll have to tear my entire dash apart again to install said cable. Any thoughts on this?
Reply
Old May 12, 2006 | 07:26 AM
  #57  
35ounces's Avatar
35ounces
03 CS Track 6MT
Premier Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default

LOL, yeah I was going to use the USB until I realized I was going to have to take everything apart to get to the back of the UTEC again to plug in. But others on the boards have used the USB connection successfully.
Reply
Old May 12, 2006 | 07:28 AM
  #58  
Sharif@Forged's Avatar
Sharif@Forged
Sponsor
Forged Performance
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 13,733
Likes: 1
From: Marietta, GA
Default

Yes, the USB connection works perfectly.
Reply
Old May 12, 2006 | 07:30 AM
  #59  
Robert_K's Avatar
Robert_K
Didn't Go Cheap
Premier Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 12,390
Likes: 101
From: Spring, TX
Default

Damn... I'm block from seeing the link. Ill subscribe and check it out when I return to the states.
Reply
Old May 15, 2006 | 02:57 PM
  #60  
jmussetter's Avatar
jmussetter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default Update

Well I've been working on the code, and it's comming along nicely. The final release is still a little time away, however the wait will be worth it I hope. I've decided that with the 350z support, that it was time to step the program up to a 3.0 release version. With that said, I'm stepping up some of the other features as well, more wide-band options and inline tuner support. Hopefully a couple other nice surprises too (unless development starts taking longer than anticipated).

To answer some questions...

Nice if it could use both the Tuner GEN 2 AFR and the AEM - so I can log AFR from both sides of the engine.
Theoretically, with the changes I've done to the internal parsing codes, this *should* be possible. In theory, the Tuner can be connected in-line and an AEM (or any of the avail WB) could also be used. The new version of the program will now append the AFR column to the end of the log line from the secondary WB meter rather than mangle the column order. This means that your resulting log would show the Tuner's AFR in the normal column plus an additional column after that showing the secondary WB meter AFR. The LogMaps and Guages for AFR however will only show the value of 1 of the meters. This is more of a side-effect of the new logging methods, rather than a specific feature however, so this theory would have to be put to practice to know for sure...


Also, we do not have a stock MAP sensor, so the guage constantly reads 0 for it.
The MAP is not from an actual map sensor, it actually shows what column the UTEC is running in from 0-100.

That's it for now, the 350z is pretty much completed, just trying to finish everything else up at ths point...

-jason
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:26 AM.