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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Just wondering if you could get anymore out of a 100% bonestock Z, or if it's already tuned to potential from the factory. I tried a search but I am not really sure the correct way to word it. What about with exhaust? I know trying to do any anything with it from an NA standpoint is kind of a crap shoot, but I figure I may do a little just to make my Z my own, and maybe run N20 in the future. I'm not sure I can justify spending 7k on this car for 350-400 reletively safe horsepower, when I can make my integra much faster for much less. If I can find all the pieces on my own and do it for a lot cheaper I may in the future, but for the nearer future just a 100 shot for desperate messures! Also, what is a "rev up" motor? I have an 05 manuel, is that a rev up? I'm a noob with Nissan stuff, so I appreciatte any input. Thanks, Ramsey.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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yup you can get more hp. Basic bolts ons such as an exhaust, intake, plenum spacer, test pipes, and a UTEC can gain some good gains. It's still cheaper to go with a turbo/supercharger.

I have an integra also, and i know i can make it faster for cheap. But it would never be as nice/cool as a 350z turbo. There is a reason why it's cheaper to mod.

Search around, you'll find plenty of good answers and engine builds of others.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooftop voter
Just wondering if you could get anymore out of a 100% bonestock Z, or if it's already tuned to potential from the factory. I tried a search but I am not really sure the correct way to word it. What about with exhaust? I know trying to do any anything with it from an NA standpoint is kind of a crap shoot, but I figure I may do a little just to make my Z my own, and maybe run N20 in the future. I'm not sure I can justify spending 7k on this car for 350-400 reletively safe horsepower, when I can make my integra much faster for much less. If I can find all the pieces on my own and do it for a lot cheaper I may in the future, but for the nearer future just a 100 shot for desperate messures! Also, what is a "rev up" motor? I have an 05 manuel, is that a rev up? I'm a noob with Nissan stuff, so I appreciatte any input. Thanks, Ramsey.
-There seems to be little hidden power in the Vq unless you go crazy with the na mods. ($$)
-From a relatively cheap standpoint there is nothing you can do besides a little n02.
-Rev up motor, has an increaded redline of 7k, and some minor adjustments, and a lot of oil burning.
- Unless you have a 05 35th aniversary, track edition, or an 06. You do not have the rev up.
- The engine with the most potential is the HR which come in the 07's.

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Yeah, no rev up for me. Oh well. Yeah, I may just leave it mostly stock and put some new rims on, and make the teg my speed car. It's a sweet car, but I don't think I really want to spend the $$$ it costs to turbo/supercharge it knowing anyone in a decently turboed civic or teg will probably roast me. I had 310whp and 285wtq at 2650lbs curb wieght in the teg ,and even if I used N20 now, and got 350-360, my teg probably still would get it. I hate that. I've never used N20 before so this will be new to me. It seems like good cheap bolt on horsepower.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Yeah, no rev up for me. Oh well. Yeah, I may just leave it mostly stock and put some new rims on, and make the teg my speed car. It's a sweet car, but I don't think I really want to spend the $$$ it costs to turbo/supercharge it knowing anyone in a decently turboed civic or teg will probably roast me. I had 310whp and 285wtq at 2650lbs curb wieght in the teg ,and even if I used N20 now, and got 350-360, my teg probably still would get it. I hate that. I've never used N20 before so this will be new to me. It seems like good cheap bolt on horsepower.
Rev up isn't really better IMO. You probably just like it because of the name "rev up" .

I thought about doing a k20 swap in my integra but when i think about it, i can just put it in my z and have a much better car. Even if you have a fast integra, in the end, it's just a 1-5k integra and people expect it to be fast because of how cheap it is and the parts. It's just another 4 cylinder, horrible sounding car. I rather just keep mine as a daily driver when the the Z is down
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Yeah, no rev up for me. Oh well. Yeah, I may just leave it mostly stock and put some new rims on, and make the teg my speed car. It's a sweet car, but I don't think I really want to spend the $$$ it costs to turbo/supercharge it knowing anyone in a decently turboed civic or teg will probably roast me. I had 310whp and 285wtq at 2650lbs curb wieght in the teg ,and even if I used N20 now, and got 350-360, my teg probably still would get it. I hate that. I've never used N20 before so this will be new to me. It seems like good cheap bolt on horsepower.
Just build your Z up for some auto X, its cheap and fun.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350
Rev up isn't really better IMO. You probably just like it because of the name "rev up" .

I thought about doing a k20 swap in my integra but when i think about it, i can just put it in my z and have a much better car. Even if you have a fast integra, in the end, it's just a 1-5k integra and people expect it to be fast because of how cheap it is and the parts. It's just another 4 cylinder, horrible sounding car. I rather just keep mine as a daily driver when the the Z is down
I have no real feeling for the rev up motor, I just wanted to know what one was and if I had one, and what was the benefit to having one. I'll put a little work in the Z, but I can't justify the cost for the horsepower gains with turbo in the Z, unless I can find a way to put a kit together myself for around 2k. That's why I think I'm going to try Nitrous this time. K20 is way to much. For the price of the k20 motor in the teg, you can build a motor capable of handling more power. My teg sounds pretty mean, at least to me, not all raspy and high pitched like some, but then again I heard when you put turbos on it can change the sound comming through the exhaust. I had a 3 inch DP back exhaust to a magnaflow muffler and I liked the way it sounded, it was just a little loud, especially when I got higher up in the RPMs, but it was a good note. As I said, I like the Z a lot, but for the ***** out power and speed, I think I'm going to rebuild the Teggy. I know it's only a four cylinder, but that thing can move. I really like that car for some reason even thought it's treated me like a washed up hooker lately (the reason I bought the Z) Also, while I'm thinking about it, for you guys that did exhaust work, could you feel the extra 10 or 12 horsepower in the butt dyno at all? What about those with lightwieght flywheels and such? The things I'm planning on doing other than N20 are exhaust, clutch, LW flywheel, lightwieght rims. Will I be able to feel these mods on this car? I know some people don't think of rims as a mod, but when I took the stockers off of the teg and put the lightwieght rims on, I could feel a differance. Anyhow, are those mods worth while mods to put on?

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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are these cars money pits or what? ever since i got my hands on one ive been looking to upgrade and every thing is just plain expensive and in my retardedness im pretty sure thats not going to stop me. my car is bone stock except for rims and tires and im looking for any sound advice that any of you guys or girls could give me im realy looking into n/a high compression motor and all the parts that are neede to build one, thanks for the help.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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I think it's expensive for what you get in my opinion. I really like driving the car though. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do. I just have a hard time paying 7k or so (with the kits) for turbos to get a safe 360-400 whp in a 3300 pound car. I may just put some nice rims on and call it a day. I wish they came FI stock.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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We are going to find out the answer to that question very soon. Stand by.

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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For everyone *****ing about pricing...you have a car that is still pretty much *brand new,* thus the high pricing on parts. If you want cheap parts and an OH SO COOL sounding exhaust, then go with some old school Hondas!

350Z=class, elegance, performance

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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With Nismo exhaust and intake on the 03', we saw 20+ hp over the stock ecu. We didn't find much improvement on the 06'.

Both cars were tuned with a Haltech Platinum PnP EMS.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by InjectedPerf
With Nismo exhaust and intake on the 03', we saw 20+ hp over the stock ecu. We didn't find much improvement on the 06'.

Both cars were tuned with a Haltech Platinum PnP EMS.
what was the before and after numbers if you dont mind me asking on the 03?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by !prjctmax!
For everyone *****ing about pricing...you have a car that is still pretty much *brand new,* thus the high pricing on parts. If you want cheap parts and an OH SO COOL sounding exhaust, then go with some old school Hondas!

350Z=class, elegance, performance

.02 like duh!

Car part prices are generally still in the same ballpark price as they used to be not quite sure you know what your talking about.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Ketch
Car part prices are generally still in the same ballpark price as they used to be not quite sure you know what your talking about.
I'm comparing "new" car performance parts to "old" car performance parts.

You're trying to tell me that oh, let's say a turbo for older Honda's are in the "same ballpark price" as a turbo for a 350Z?
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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The power increase with tuning on a completely stock engine, depends on the state of your current engine/tune. We have tuned bone stock Z's before, and gotten a 10whp improvement just from tuning.

But it would be better, to add a few NA breathing mods, and then tune one time. With the right selection of bolt on mods, and tuning, expect about a 25-35 whp improvement over stock.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Depends on the software engineers safety standards vs his bonus per additional HP created vs whether he gets fired for too many engine failure warranty claims. The ragged edge guys don't last very long and neither do their programs.
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