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04-22-2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziggyrama
With the mods, you opened up some more top end but you may loose some low end torque due to headers. I don't know enough about Tomei headers but headers are a tricky thing. I think most people underestimate the amount of science that goes into a good set of headers. Anyways, even a very fast car is only as good as a driver that knows it's strengths and weaknesses and knows how to leverage that info to go faster. Don't take it personally but perhaps you need to re-train your driving habits and learn how to drive the car that will probably behave differently now. Where did you race? Was it from a roll? At the track from a stop? How do you feel about your skills as a driver?
Remember, fractions of a sec are considered big on the track. Often times, perceived small difference may record as a big one in racing standards. Shaving 0.2 off your 1/4 mile is considered significant. Now think about it, if you didn't have a stop watch, would that kind of difference seem like a lot? Would you even think there was a difference? Also.....maybe your friend got better at driving too
Remember, fractions of a sec are considered big on the track. Often times, perceived small difference may record as a big one in racing standards. Shaving 0.2 off your 1/4 mile is considered significant. Now think about it, if you didn't have a stop watch, would that kind of difference seem like a lot? Would you even think there was a difference? Also.....maybe your friend got better at driving too
04-24-2008, 04:16 PM
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We have an Uprev Pro Tuner in UAE. Let me know if you need contact info for them. Pro Tuners can also adapt the stock ECU for the FI setups. We have a 500+whp 350z sitting in our bay right now as a matter of fact.
06-23-2008, 09:47 PM
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update
i got my car tuned with Unichip. and am satisfied now.
once i finished the tune, i asked my freind to try with me wth his GTI
1st horn, 2nd 3rd, and i start pull very hard that he cant even stand 1 gear with me. and by 4th gear adistance of 6 to 7 cars is there. so am happy now
uprev.. can i have more details plz. pm me.
i got my car tuned with Unichip. and am satisfied now.
once i finished the tune, i asked my freind to try with me wth his GTI
1st horn, 2nd 3rd, and i start pull very hard that he cant even stand 1 gear with me. and by 4th gear adistance of 6 to 7 cars is there. so am happy now
uprev.. can i have more details plz. pm me.
06-24-2008, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nightcrawler_8
update
i got my car tuned with Unichip. and am satisfied now.
once i finished the tune, i asked my freind to try with me wth his GTI
1st horn, 2nd 3rd, and i start pull very hard that he cant even stand 1 gear with me. and by 4th gear adistance of 6 to 7 cars is there. so am happy now
uprev.. can i have more details plz. pm me.
i got my car tuned with Unichip. and am satisfied now.
once i finished the tune, i asked my freind to try with me wth his GTI
1st horn, 2nd 3rd, and i start pull very hard that he cant even stand 1 gear with me. and by 4th gear adistance of 6 to 7 cars is there. so am happy now
uprev.. can i have more details plz. pm me.
I have my PM's turned off so that people contact me directly. I don't always get a chance to answer PM's. Can you call me or e-mail me at the shop? (512)538-4856 or rich@uprev.com
06-24-2008, 08:03 AM
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should have gone with a utec or equivalent...or even uprev reflash at a pro tuner. anything you can have actually tuned to your specific car is considerably better
06-24-2008, 08:51 AM
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Dear nightcrawler8: Thanks to dudes like you, my monZter stays stock! All the
$$$ I'd spend on mods is being redirected to my savings acct. I'll be retiring
on November of 'O9, and the beaZt looks f-i-n-e as is! Good luck!
$$$ I'd spend on mods is being redirected to my savings acct. I'll be retiring
on November of 'O9, and the beaZt looks f-i-n-e as is! Good luck!
06-24-2008, 09:21 AM
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Your mod list isn't all that good. 3 or 4 of them are pretty useless for power. Spacer/UTEC/gears should be the first 3 mods on anybody's list, IMO.
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06-24-2008, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology1
Your mod list isn't all that good. 3 or 4 of them are pretty useless for power. Spacer/UTEC/gears should be the first 3 mods on anybody's list, IMO.
06-24-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ZthirtyThr33
I agree with taurran.... After I got a ride in a single turbo G... I hated my Z after that.. and I quit modding it. Im done with NA. Turbos ftmfw
Just MHO.
06-24-2008, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nightcrawler_8
update
i got my car tuned with Unichip. and am satisfied now.
once i finished the tune, i asked my freind to try with me wth his GTI
1st horn, 2nd 3rd, and i start pull very hard that he cant even stand 1 gear with me. and by 4th gear adistance of 6 to 7 cars is there. so am happy now
uprev.. can i have more details plz. pm me.
i got my car tuned with Unichip. and am satisfied now.
once i finished the tune, i asked my freind to try with me wth his GTI
1st horn, 2nd 3rd, and i start pull very hard that he cant even stand 1 gear with me. and by 4th gear adistance of 6 to 7 cars is there. so am happy now
uprev.. can i have more details plz. pm me.
06-24-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveZ
Congrats, unless you're doing this on a strip, you've taken a big first step toward losing your license and your car.
I don't think street racing is safe or sane, but seriously I'd give up Florida and most of Georgia to have some pristine open highways. (no offense to anyone in georgia or florida)
06-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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OOPs, 
My sincere apologies, he can get away with things we can only dream of
I just get sick of local kill stories living in an area where there's really nowhere safe to pull any of that kind of stuff. If you try, there's plenty of town/state cops around to discourage you permanently. More than 20 over on a 2-lane state road here is auto-court appearance, and even 90 mph on a wide open state hwy is an arrest offense. I grew up in a remote area of Oregon, it's so Big Brother in the NE by comparison it's not remotely funny. Back home we also had highways with no exits for many miles, and even long straight back roads largely empty of traffic - not here.
I still like a clock and a strip, and autox and track days, but hell yes, if I had the space and lenient or just not-around law enforcement in the UAE, damn straight I'd be right there, or a liar if I said I wouldn't. Doesn't make it safe but don't plan on dying in bed anyway
My sincere apologies, he can get away with things we can only dream of I just get sick of local kill stories living in an area where there's really nowhere safe to pull any of that kind of stuff. If you try, there's plenty of town/state cops around to discourage you permanently. More than 20 over on a 2-lane state road here is auto-court appearance, and even 90 mph on a wide open state hwy is an arrest offense. I grew up in a remote area of Oregon, it's so Big Brother in the NE by comparison it's not remotely funny. Back home we also had highways with no exits for many miles, and even long straight back roads largely empty of traffic - not here.
I still like a clock and a strip, and autox and track days, but hell yes, if I had the space and lenient or just not-around law enforcement in the UAE, damn straight I'd be right there, or a liar if I said I wouldn't. Doesn't make it safe but don't plan on dying in bed anyway
06-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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should have gone with a utec or equivalent...or even uprev reflash at a pro tuner. anything you can have actually tuned to your specific car is considerably better
06-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveZ
OOPs, My sincere apologies, he can get away with things we can only dream of
I just get sick of local kill stories living in an area where there's really nowhere safe to pull any of that kind of stuff. If you try, there's plenty of town/state cops around to discourage you permanently. More than 20 over on a 2-lane state road here is auto-court appearance, and even 90 mph on a wide open state hwy is an arrest offense. I grew up in a remote area of Oregon, it's so Big Brother in the NE by comparison it's not remotely funny. Back home we also had highways with no exits for many miles, and even long straight back roads largely empty of traffic - not here.
I still like a clock and a strip, and autox and track days, but hell yes, if I had the space and lenient or just not-around law enforcement in the UAE, damn straight I'd be right there, or a liar if I said I wouldn't. Doesn't make it safe but don't plan on dying in bed anyway
My sincere apologies, he can get away with things we can only dream of I just get sick of local kill stories living in an area where there's really nowhere safe to pull any of that kind of stuff. If you try, there's plenty of town/state cops around to discourage you permanently. More than 20 over on a 2-lane state road here is auto-court appearance, and even 90 mph on a wide open state hwy is an arrest offense. I grew up in a remote area of Oregon, it's so Big Brother in the NE by comparison it's not remotely funny. Back home we also had highways with no exits for many miles, and even long straight back roads largely empty of traffic - not here.
I still like a clock and a strip, and autox and track days, but hell yes, if I had the space and lenient or just not-around law enforcement in the UAE, damn straight I'd be right there, or a liar if I said I wouldn't. Doesn't make it safe but don't plan on dying in bed anyway
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Sorry if OT, how does Unichip compare with UTEC and COBB? COBB I looked into seriously but found the gains sounded minimal for $800 or more. Something like +7 whp (no ref to what A/F ratio), dampened my enthusiasm. I'd be more inclined to open up the plenum with a spacer, consider AM headers and exhaust if I knew what I could reasonably expect. My SR20DE runs with a custom tune JWT ECU, my KA24DE with a Calumsoft RT ECU, so it's not like I don't believe in the power of NA tuning - it's just with those cars the difference after I/H/E was night and day with ECU tune vs. without.
06-24-2008, 03:41 PM
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Sorry if OT, how does Unichip compare with UTEC and COBB? COBB I looked into seriously but found the gains sounded minimal for $800 or more. Something like +7 whp (no ref to what A/F ratio), dampened my enthusiasm. I'd be more inclined to open up the plenum with a spacer, consider AM headers and exhaust if I knew what I could reasonably expect. My SR20DE runs with a custom tune JWT ECU, my KA24DE with a Calumsoft RT ECU, so it's not like I don't believe in the power of NA tuning - it's just with those cars the difference after I/H/E was night and day with ECU tune vs. without.
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Originally Posted by UpRev
That and the lack of deer running across in front of you at 160mph.
They're thick around here, I swear they have issues with suicidal depression or something, it's a miracle I've never hit one, just really close many times - bad odds! Same for Wild Turkeys, traveling in packs, just they're more messy than a menace.
Now it's Gentle Ben I have to worry about, keep seeing black bears ambling down the road, mostly this time of year, they don't give a sheet about cars, people, they just act like the own the place.
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Originally Posted by Zivman
When you are talking bolt-on power adders in a N/A setup, all are going to be comparable. You won't make a significant amount more power with a utec vs a unichip or cobb. As long as the tuner is capable, all will be within spitting distance of each other. When you add more variable into the mix, ie boost, things change and the true capabilities of the EMS will begin to separate themselves
That's the other reason I back off, the headers won't carry over, and I'll probably want a 3" true dual designed for FI more than the typical NA bolt-on offerings.
I just have to get the point where I won't cry like a baby if I lose a motor, because despite all the goodness of experience with good EMS I've heard running stock internals, that's an FI waystation IMHO. If you're not prepared to accept the possibility of smoking a stock motor, you just don't go there. Not that you will, and I'd be happy to see another 40k FI on the motor I have. Still, warranty isn't really much an issue much longer, the day is getting closer.
At least with an SR20DE+T a smoked motor is a $500-700 boo-hoo, and while I haven't priced VQ replacement options lately, guessing another zero wouldn't be too far off.