Notices
Tuning Reflashes, Piggybacks, Standalone ECUs

Cipher Logging Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 4, 2008 | 03:20 PM
  #1  
Z1 Performance's Avatar
Z1 Performance
Thread Starter
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 5
From: Long Island, New York
Default Cipher Logging Question

Anyone have a quick log they can post of a car just idling? I'm curious what the calculated load looks like and what that parameter is based upon (ie what is the ecu using to determine the calculated load?)

I seem to be having a very similar issue to what chris'maax is experiencing, that just started today, and tracking it down is proving difficult. Essentially, the car will start fine, rev fine, idle fine, etc. when cold. Let the car warm considerably (after 15 or so minutes, so well past the point where coolant is fully up to temp for example ), and it starts acting up - slighty backfiring, won't rev cleanly. Plugs are brand new, as well as the coils. Only reported code is P0300 but no CEL. Let the car cool down, start it back up and it's fine..till it acts up again.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2008 | 03:27 PM
  #2  
cdoxp800's Avatar
cdoxp800
Registered User
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,771
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

Humm.. None yet, Let me go for go for a quick drive I can get you one.

Mine seems like if I run the car hard and then turn it off after that drive, the next time start and take a drive it, it gets a sluggish when I try accelerating. To me it's feels like it’s going in and out of limp mode as I accelerate.
I have pulled the logs with Cipher, but is shows no errors.

Files are attached for you.
Attached Files
File Type: zip
logs.zip (31.2 KB, 35 views)

Last edited by cdoxp800; Oct 4, 2008 at 03:54 PM. Reason: Added log files
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2008 | 03:56 PM
  #3  
RMichael's Avatar
RMichael
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 10,550
Likes: 3
From: east coast
Default

the support page
http://www.uprev.com/support.php
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2008 | 04:03 PM
  #4  
Z1 Performance's Avatar
Z1 Performance
Thread Starter
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 5
From: Long Island, New York
Default

thanks for the log...back to the drawing table, your calc. load looks just like mine, so I have to assume that it's ok

support page I saw earlier today but nothing was listed there at all.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2008 | 04:09 PM
  #5  
cdoxp800's Avatar
cdoxp800
Registered User
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,771
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
thanks for the log...back to the drawing table, your calc. load looks just like mine, so I have to assume that it's ok

support page I saw earlier today but nothing was listed there at all.
No prob. Glad to help.
I have been eyeballing your APS 350Z/G35 Single Turbo kit.... I just don't want to jump the gun..
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2008 | 04:16 PM
  #6  
RMichael's Avatar
RMichael
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 10,550
Likes: 3
From: east coast
Default

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
support page I saw earlier today but nothing was listed there at all.
yep. was just making sure you'd loaded the upgrades. gl.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 04:57 AM
  #7  
twin001's Avatar
twin001
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Default

I pm'd you about my logs. If you need more data just pm me your email. I had to delete some of the data in this .csv file to stay below the boards size limit.
Attached Files
File Type: zip
Cipher Logs.zip (65.6 KB, 19 views)
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 07:23 AM
  #8  
Z1 Performance's Avatar
Z1 Performance
Thread Starter
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 5
From: Long Island, New York
Default

Originally Posted by RMichael
yep. was just making sure you'd loaded the upgrades. gl.

thanks - no, have not bothered to do the upgrades, as I don't really use the cipher much

twin001 - thanks, but can't get yours to open

what is weird is I emailed gothchick, since I know she logs stuff constantly, and her calculated load at idle is 0...which makes sense to me. I wonder why mine is at 20% Perhaps I need to do the TPS reset procedure

Last edited by Z1 Performance; Oct 6, 2008 at 07:26 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 07:29 AM
  #9  
gothchick's Avatar
gothchick
Registered User
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,300
Likes: 1
From: ATL
Default

Yeah... From my memory that's where mine is... Let me get some logs of idle values just to validate that my calc load is at 0 at idle, Adam. :-)
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 07:55 AM
  #10  
importpunisher's Avatar
importpunisher
Registered User
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
From: san antonio, texas
Default

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
Anyone have a quick log they can post of a car just idling? I'm curious what the calculated load looks like and what that parameter is based upon (ie what is the ecu using to determine the calculated load?)

I seem to be having a very similar issue to what chris'maax is experiencing, that just started today, and tracking it down is proving difficult. Essentially, the car will start fine, rev fine, idle fine, etc. when cold. Let the car warm considerably (after 15 or so minutes, so well past the point where coolant is fully up to temp for example ), and it starts acting up - slighty backfiring, won't rev cleanly. Plugs are brand new, as well as the coils. Only reported code is P0300 but no CEL. Let the car cool down, start it back up and it's fine..till it acts up again.
i get that as well, once or twice my car stalled in traffic and then in 1st gear it just started reving from 0-1 then just stalled then it starts like a champ and acts fine. can anyone help me too with advice???? no ses codes or light
what up grade is need cipher? i just got uprev about 3 weeks ago.

Last edited by importpunisher; Oct 6, 2008 at 08:01 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 08:58 AM
  #11  
twin001's Avatar
twin001
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Default

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
thanks - no, have not bothered to do the upgrades, as I don't really use the cipher much

twin001 - thanks, but can't get yours to open

what is weird is I emailed gothchick, since I know she logs stuff constantly, and her calculated load at idle is 0...which makes sense to me. I wonder why mine is at 20% Perhaps I need to do the TPS reset procedure
did you right click on it and open with Excel?

Wouldn't the Cipher reflash correct any TPS issues?
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 09:06 AM
  #12  
twin001's Avatar
twin001
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Default

looking at one of my old logs my calculated load it idle is around 24%. The min calculated load is 10% and max is 82%. Don't know what to make of this...?
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 09:09 AM
  #13  
Z1 Performance's Avatar
Z1 Performance
Thread Starter
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 5
From: Long Island, New York
Default

ok - gothchick said she would check for me, so we'll see. If more than 1 person report the load in the low 20's, that sorta tells me it is where it's supposed to be. So the search continues to solve my issue

The TPS calibration is not done via Cipher, it's just a factory reset procedure. I don't think this is my problem though, as mine is clearly temperature related.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 10:33 AM
  #14  
chris'smax's Avatar
chris'smax
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 0
From: On dicks
Default

well adam i think me and you are back to square one lol. I checked my FCON and all of the sensor inputs are fine. I will let you know if i find anything and hopefully together we can figure this $hit out.

I am pissed man. I want to go for a drive because it is finally cooling off down here and the weather has been beautiful so i can cruise around w/ the windows down
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 10:36 AM
  #15  
blasian's Avatar
blasian
New Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 33,731
Likes: 1
From: Get out my way pimpin, LA
Default

Originally Posted by chris'smax
so i can cruise around w/ the windows down
Jason-style?

Damn Adam... that's crazy that you both have similar problems.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 10:43 AM
  #16  
chris'smax's Avatar
chris'smax
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 0
From: On dicks
Default

Originally Posted by blasian
Jason-style?

Damn Adam... that's crazy that you both have similar problems.
you know it dude!


G'S UP HOES DOWN!!!!
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:11 PM
  #17  
Z1 Performance's Avatar
Z1 Performance
Thread Starter
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 5
From: Long Island, New York
Default

Originally Posted by blasian
Jason-style?
lolol

Originally Posted by blasian
Damn Adam... that's crazy that you both have similar problems.
definitely odd - 2 different setups but very much the same symptoms. Hopefully I'll get a chance to look at mine a bit more tonight.

Originally Posted by chris'smax
I am pissed man. I want to go for a drive because it is finally cooling off down here and the weather has been beautiful so i can cruise around w/ the windows down
I hear ya kid, believe me! This weekend the weather was finally nice, and I had some time to myself...and the car is acting prissy I'm of the opinion it's got to be something stupid - otherwise it would do it from the moment the car starts
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2008 | 07:35 AM
  #18  
gothchick's Avatar
gothchick
Registered User
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,300
Likes: 1
From: ATL
Default

Adam,

I did a log last night. I think you're fine. I'm also at 19~20% Calc Load at idle. See attached log.

Erin
Attached Thumbnails Cipher Logging Question-cipher.jpg  

Last edited by gothchick; Oct 7, 2008 at 07:55 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2008 | 08:00 AM
  #19  
Z1 Performance's Avatar
Z1 Performance
Thread Starter
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 5
From: Long Island, New York
Default

thanks Erin
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2008 | 08:07 AM
  #20  
gothchick's Avatar
gothchick
Registered User
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,300
Likes: 1
From: ATL
Default

Anytime~ :-)
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
XM 1
Engine & Drivetrain
29
Jul 10, 2022 07:44 AM
Colombo
Forced Induction
35
Nov 9, 2020 10:27 AM
issyz
2003-2009 Nissan 350Z
6
Jul 2, 2017 03:04 PM
hulkout
Tuning
1
Sep 30, 2015 12:33 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:50 AM.