Getting Tuned :hehehe:
03-06-2009, 02:52 PM
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Getting Tuned
Okay well finally will be getting my car tuned. Ordered the Zex kit and Cobb Tuning access port from SlowBoy Racing today. Soon as they call me to let me know the parts are in I'll be heading down there to get the kit installed and have the car tuned. So I'm guessing probably on the 14th. My current mods are just AAM test pipes and Greddy TIC exhaust. I'm going to have them save a map using Vpracing q16 so we'll see what numbers I get.
I'll post some dyno sheet pics asap..
03-06-2009, 05:57 PM
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better get the parts on and supporting mods before u go get tuned, jumpin the gun a little thinkin its gonna be a bing bang deal just bolt it on and go..plugs, injectors, wideband????? window switch? bottle heater? all things that add up and should consider
and ur gonna pay an assload that u could save on an easy install
and ur gonna pay an assload that u could save on an easy install
03-07-2009, 09:06 AM
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oh is that right?....hmm guess thats weird how my old tuner on my last car that i ran a 150 shot on had me upgrade the injectors before tuning...i understand its not a necessity just like running low boost on stock injectors its not a good idea!! especially under the spray when they are giving all they have to give and possibly fail causing the car to go lean since they are being ran at 95 % duty cycle...like i said its a good idea imo..along with other safety precautions that are cheaper than a new motor
03-07-2009, 12:49 PM
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yeah a small shot the stock injectors will probably be ok, but why take the chance is all im sayin...also if not going with bigger injectors the other smarter idea would be to do an inline pump...theres alot more to buying a base nitrous kit with nothing with it and going and slapping it on and getting tuned is all im saying...without safety precautions and other supporting mods to keep bottle pressure and etc. its a waste of money and could harm ur engine if not done the right way..trying to give a little advice on not going with just a nitrous kit and getting the extras that will make a difference...at first i went with a 75 shot, stock injectors and etc. bolted it on ran it and it felt like nothing, bottle pressure was all over the place, didn't have a wideband to monitor a/f so who knows what it was running...do it right the first time trust me cause at some point ur gonna want to change things up for the better
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03-07-2009, 12:50 PM
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i suppose colder plugs arent a necessity too right and a a/f gauge..get real there are things that should be looked into and if going with nitrous its cheap anyway so why not spend the extra buck and get everything that will matter and make for a nice reliable setup
03-17-2009, 08:05 PM
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Update .. The people at Slowboy f*cked up my order so today I get a call from them that they finally got the kit in and the access port . So gonna have the GF pick up the parts tomorrow. I'll be installing the kit over the weekend, seems extremely easy but time consuming as hell. After the install I'm dropping off the car to them to have it tuned , they said it takes a couple of days. Thanks for the advice , though I don't think I'll be using the nitrous that much at all and I'm only going to stick to a 75shot . Its just going to be there for the rare cocky turboed civic/integra and the very rare evos in my area.
Anyone know if race fuel is safe to use with nitrous on a stock HR ? I'm thinking VP Racing q16, I asked one of the people over at Slow boy and they said yeah its safe but the only drawback is that I'll end up burning up my o2 sensors quicker. Again my mods are Greddy TIC exhaust and test pipes. Just asking because it seems like race fuel is pretty safe on almost anything and since the Vq35de and HR can handle 400+ whp on 8psi of boost with no problems I dont see why it wouldnt be able to handle an expected 380 whp on the race fuel on an occasional basis.
Anyone know if race fuel is safe to use with nitrous on a stock HR ? I'm thinking VP Racing q16, I asked one of the people over at Slow boy and they said yeah its safe but the only drawback is that I'll end up burning up my o2 sensors quicker. Again my mods are Greddy TIC exhaust and test pipes. Just asking because it seems like race fuel is pretty safe on almost anything and since the Vq35de and HR can handle 400+ whp on 8psi of boost with no problems I dont see why it wouldnt be able to handle an expected 380 whp on the race fuel on an occasional basis.
03-17-2009, 08:17 PM
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Update .. The people at Slowboy f*cked up my order so today I get a call from them that they finally got the kit in and the access port . So gonna have the GF pick up the parts tomorrow. I'll be installing the kit over the weekend, seems extremely easy but time consuming as hell. After the install I'm dropping off the car to them to have it tuned , they said it takes a couple of days. Thanks for the advice , though I don't think I'll be using the nitrous that much at all and I'm only going to stick to a 75shot . Its just going to be there for the rare cocky turboed civic/integra and the very rare evos in my area.
Anyone know if race fuel is safe to use with nitrous on a stock HR ? I'm thinking VP Racing q16, I asked one of the people over at Slow boy and they said yeah its safe but the only drawback is that I'll end up burning up my o2 sensors quicker. Again my mods are Greddy TIC exhaust and test pipes. Just asking because it seems like race fuel is pretty safe on almost anything and since the Vq35de and HR can handle 400+ whp on 8psi of boost with no problems I dont see why it wouldnt be able to handle an expected 380 whp on the race fuel on an occasional basis.
Anyone know if race fuel is safe to use with nitrous on a stock HR ? I'm thinking VP Racing q16, I asked one of the people over at Slow boy and they said yeah its safe but the only drawback is that I'll end up burning up my o2 sensors quicker. Again my mods are Greddy TIC exhaust and test pipes. Just asking because it seems like race fuel is pretty safe on almost anything and since the Vq35de and HR can handle 400+ whp on 8psi of boost with no problems I dont see why it wouldnt be able to handle an expected 380 whp on the race fuel on an occasional basis.
if u don't have a seperate map for the race fuel i would see no point in using it with a 75 shot...just run 93, that is fine..1 step colder plugs a/f gauge and spray away, a utec would be a great investment so u can have different maps one for n/a and one for when u want to spray that can be switched on the fly with a map selector...
03-18-2009, 08:57 AM
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Ditch the AP and get Osiris. They tuned my N20 to perfection.
How do u plan to tune the AF with the CobbAP? I hope you dont think that the AF is just going to be perfect right out of the box..lol.
My other car is a 06 Sedan and I put on a Dynotune 50 shot and while spraying my AF was at 17's 18's. I had to go up 2 fuel jet sizes and Uprev had to add hella fuel to get it to around 11's 12's.
Are u going to a Cobb certified tuner or something?
How do u plan to tune the AF with the CobbAP? I hope you dont think that the AF is just going to be perfect right out of the box..lol.
My other car is a 06 Sedan and I put on a Dynotune 50 shot and while spraying my AF was at 17's 18's. I had to go up 2 fuel jet sizes and Uprev had to add hella fuel to get it to around 11's 12's.
Are u going to a Cobb certified tuner or something?
03-18-2009, 09:05 AM
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Ditch the AP and get Osiris. They tuned my N20 to perfection.
How do u plan to tune the AF with the CobbAP? I hope you dont think that the AF is just going to be perfect right out of the box..lol.
My other car is a 06 Sedan and I put on a Dynotune 50 shot and while spraying my AF was at 17's 18's. I had to go up 2 fuel jet sizes and Uprev had to add hella fuel to get it to around 11's 12's.
Are u going to a Cobb certified tuner or something?
How do u plan to tune the AF with the CobbAP? I hope you dont think that the AF is just going to be perfect right out of the box..lol.
My other car is a 06 Sedan and I put on a Dynotune 50 shot and while spraying my AF was at 17's 18's. I had to go up 2 fuel jet sizes and Uprev had to add hella fuel to get it to around 11's 12's.
Are u going to a Cobb certified tuner or something?
im not familiar with the cobb thing like i said cause from what i have heard its junk, but i just don't see the point in having it tuned if thats the only map it can have, so if u tune it for nitrous u are gonna drive around daily with a slug thats down on power cause its tuned just for the spray? when a utec can switch between maps and u could have a motor tune and a tune for spray...think some more though should have went into this like i said from the start
03-18-2009, 09:18 AM
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With Osiris u will have the ability to switch maps while driving at any speed with your cruise control buttons. You get 5 different maps to switch from.
For instance my maps are:
Map 1 93 Octane Tuned NA map
Map 2 75 shot n20 map
Map 3 50 shot n20 map
Map 4 Stock map
Map 5 Econo Map (4500rev limit) great on gas.
If I decide I want to use the squeeze at 100mph its as simple as hitting the button on the steering wheel (cruise control button) and switching to my N20 map and spray away.
No gameboy like device glued to my dashboard lol.
Uprevs product is 100x better then the Cobb AP. Theres simply no comparison.
For instance my maps are:
Map 1 93 Octane Tuned NA map
Map 2 75 shot n20 map
Map 3 50 shot n20 map
Map 4 Stock map
Map 5 Econo Map (4500rev limit) great on gas.
If I decide I want to use the squeeze at 100mph its as simple as hitting the button on the steering wheel (cruise control button) and switching to my N20 map and spray away.
No gameboy like device glued to my dashboard lol.
Uprevs product is 100x better then the Cobb AP. Theres simply no comparison.
03-18-2009, 09:21 AM
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With Osiris u will have the ability to switch maps while driving at any speed with your cruise control buttons. You get 5 different maps to switch from.
For instance my maps are:
Map 1 93 Octane Tuned NA map
Map 2 75 shot n20 map
Map 3 50 shot n20 map
Map 4 Stock map
Map 5 Econo Map (4500rev limit) great on gas.
If I decide I want to use the squeeze at 100mph its as simple as hitting the button on the steering wheel (cruise control button) and switching to my N20 map and spray away.
No gameboy like device glued to my dashboard lol.
Uprevs product is 100x better then the Cobb AP. Theres simply no comparison.
For instance my maps are:
Map 1 93 Octane Tuned NA map
Map 2 75 shot n20 map
Map 3 50 shot n20 map
Map 4 Stock map
Map 5 Econo Map (4500rev limit) great on gas.
If I decide I want to use the squeeze at 100mph its as simple as hitting the button on the steering wheel (cruise control button) and switching to my N20 map and spray away.
No gameboy like device glued to my dashboard lol.
Uprevs product is 100x better then the Cobb AP. Theres simply no comparison.
ah i guess that would do the trick, i don't know why i have just heard bad things about cobb , and how it says not even to have intake and etc. when using it, i mean basically it just didn't seem safe or somethin when i read about it a while ago..
03-18-2009, 10:35 AM
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Or maybe I'm missing something in the translation of posts in this thread
03-18-2009, 03:40 PM
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Yes I'm having the shop tune it with the Accessport and saving the map to it.
Ditch the AP and get Osiris. They tuned my N20 to perfection.
How do u plan to tune the AF with the CobbAP? I hope you dont think that the AF is just going to be perfect right out of the box..lol.
My other car is a 06 Sedan and I put on a Dynotune 50 shot and while spraying my AF was at 17's 18's. I had to go up 2 fuel jet sizes and Uprev had to add hella fuel to get it to around 11's 12's.
Are u going to a Cobb certified tuner or something?
How do u plan to tune the AF with the CobbAP? I hope you dont think that the AF is just going to be perfect right out of the box..lol.
My other car is a 06 Sedan and I put on a Dynotune 50 shot and while spraying my AF was at 17's 18's. I had to go up 2 fuel jet sizes and Uprev had to add hella fuel to get it to around 11's 12's.
Are u going to a Cobb certified tuner or something?
03-18-2009, 03:42 PM
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U can save more than one map and I'm aware of running on a nitrous map the whole time will only make the car slow when not on the spray.
im not familiar with the cobb thing like i said cause from what i have heard its junk, but i just don't see the point in having it tuned if thats the only map it can have, so if u tune it for nitrous u are gonna drive around daily with a slug thats down on power cause its tuned just for the spray? when a utec can switch between maps and u could have a motor tune and a tune for spray...think some more though should have went into this like i said from the start
03-18-2009, 04:17 PM
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No offense to the people using Osirus but I decided to go with Cobb because I choose not to get on the "Forum-Bandwagon" and I haven't heard anything bad about Cobb except from the masses that swear by Osirus because for whatever reason its the popular ECU programming device on this Forum. (Probably just because Uprev isnt considered a Subaru tuning specialist) . I choose Accessport because it gives you tons more things to do with it other than reprogramming your ecu. For those that arent familiar with it can check it out at Cobb's website : http://www.cobbtuning.com .
I welcome everybody's opinions but I mainly only come on this forum looking for tuning facts. Again I'm not bashing Osirus at all , I just choose to be different its more fun making these kinds of decisions and building your car based on your own research.
Osirus and Accessport both are able to program the same parameters so how will one get you more power than the other? It all depends on the tuner and how well you've maintained your car. Again if youre not familiar with accessport go to cobb's site , they've even got one for the GTR35.
I welcome everybody's opinions but I mainly only come on this forum looking for tuning facts. Again I'm not bashing Osirus at all , I just choose to be different its more fun making these kinds of decisions and building your car based on your own research.
Osirus and Accessport both are able to program the same parameters so how will one get you more power than the other? It all depends on the tuner and how well you've maintained your car. Again if youre not familiar with accessport go to cobb's site , they've even got one for the GTR35.