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Old Apr 18, 2020 | 01:22 PM
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An HPA video walk-though of tuning on a Haltech Elite. It seems like the Platinums are setup very similarly setup/laid-out (from my experience).

A good watch for how Haltech is laid out and some good basic tuning knowledge drops too.

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At the end it turned out quite well for me, I've achieved 98% of what I wanted to do with my project Z. Actually I was thinking that it's the right time being mostly at home during this COVID 19 thing to make some kind of tutorial here on boards of using Haltech in advanced and clever way on a 350Z.
This would be awesome. I will do my bet to help contribute my experience with my limited time!
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almost forgot...another haltech shortcoming..cruise control. Its horrible. they tried to put a street car function with little effort on cars ranging from 400 to 1000+whp.
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almost forgot...another haltech shortcoming..cruise control. Its horrible. they tried to put a street car function with little effort on cars ranging from 400 to 1000+whp.
true. It’s pretty rough at 80mph. Keeping the speed feels like Acceleration then completely off throttle and back again.
cux can you send me a snapshot of your ex cam settings? I’ve been having exhaust cam issues for the longest.

bealjk we bought new ems at the same time and I ended up getting the plat pro pnp. Now you’re making regret not getting the link with you.
link has features in its 1200$ ems that haltech puts in its 2500$ elite systems. Like knock frequency selection. All I have is threshold.
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Fella's there is a setting in Haltech thats supposed to fix the cruise issue.

https://forums.haltech.com/viewtopic.php?t=4289
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almost forgot...another haltech shortcoming..cruise control. Its horrible. they tried to put a street car function with little effort on cars ranging from 400 to 1000+whp.
I pretty much gave up on cruise control with Haltech. I'll see if I can get the Link's configured. I don't really drive at the same engine speed / travel speed so it's not much use.


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true. It’s pretty rough at 80mph. Keeping the speed feels like Acceleration then completely off throttle and back again.
cux can you send me a snapshot of your ex cam settings? I’ve been having exhaust cam issues for the longest.

bealjk we bought new ems at the same time and I ended up getting the plat pro pnp. Now you’re making regret not getting the link with you.
link has features in its 1200$ ems that haltech puts in its 2500$ elite systems. Like knock frequency selection. All I have is threshold.
yea - I'm pretty happy with how versatile the Link is. It comes off as more of a 'tuners' platform (and not that I'm a bonafide tuner). Haltech is great if you want to get tuned and never touch the map ever again. I think the link has better usability and better features and at half the price. The wide range of options of the 'rescue maps' is what sold me.


I've said it before but I'm wildly impressed with the customer service (all at no charge - part of the initial buy). I had an issue where my fuel & ignition 3d graphic maps were being goofy and I was able to chat with the guy who designed the maps(after the initial tech wasn't sure of my issue) and he remoted into my computer to verify my problem. He updated my software and it fixed the problem.

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Fella's there is a setting in Haltech thats supposed to fix the cruise issue.

https://forums.haltech.com/viewtopic.php?t=4289
Thanks Conway. I’ll try out the .650 ms decel setting as soon as I get the car running again. I blew a wb o2. Reading full lean. Swapped sensor to opposite bank, problem followed.

now the car died out of the blue at red lights. And it seems that other guys with this ecu are having the same problems.
I went and purchased new oem crank angle sensor, exchanged all 4 oem cam sensors and refreshed the timing cover seals/orings. Installed c8 cams. Then when I was ready to test, o2 bank 2 died. Lol

I felt this guys pain a few weeks ago. Seems like I wasn’t the only one.

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Originally Posted by bealljk
I pretty much gave up on cruise control with Haltech. I'll see if I can get the Link's configured. I don't really drive at the same engine speed / travel speed so it's not much use.




yea - I'm pretty happy with how versatile the Link is. It comes off as more of a 'tuners' platform (and not that I'm a bonafide tuner). Haltech is great if you want to get tuned and never touch the map ever again. I think the link has better usability and better features and at half the price. The wide range of options of the 'rescue maps' is what sold me.


I've said it before but I'm wildly impressed with the customer service (all at no charge - part of the initial buy). I had an issue where my fuel & ignition 3d graphic maps were being goofy and I was able to chat with the guy who designed the maps(after the initial tech wasn't sure of my issue) and he remoted into my computer to verify my problem. He updated my software and it fixed the problem.
I blame you for my poor decision on ecu purchase. Lol I remember we were downloading the ecu software to kind of get a feel for each brand. Aem infinity8 linkg4 and haltech for me. Only thing that scared me away was how new it was. Now I’m torn up about me not buying the link.
I’ll sell the haltech and probably go elite 2500 or link this Black Friday.

How does the link show live data.? Does it glitch at all like haltech? Sometimes the lambda would freeze then jump around. I have icore5 in my pborn laptop so it can’t be due to processing power. .Has to be the haltech. .. ?
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Originally Posted by Tran251
I blame you for my poor decision on ecu purchase. Lol I remember we were downloading the ecu software to kind of get a feel for each brand. Aem infinity8 linkg4 and haltech for me. Only thing that scared me away was how new it was. Now I’m torn up about me not buying the link.
I’ll sell the haltech and probably go elite 2500 or link this Black Friday.

How does the link show live data.? Does it glitch at all like haltech? Sometimes the lambda would freeze then jump around. I have icore5 in my pborn laptop so it can’t be due to processing power. .Has to be the haltech. .. ?

lol! Haaaa! you can blame me but it'll get you no-where!

Sell the Haltech and buy a Link ... it'll be a straight trade (money-wise)

Very rarely does it glitch. It's usually my computer that is too slow that gets bound-up...

here's a quick video of my maps
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Originally Posted by Tran251
true. It’s pretty rough at 80mph. Keeping the speed feels like Acceleration then completely off throttle and back again.
cux can you send me a snapshot of your ex cam settings? I’ve been having exhaust cam issues for the longest.

bealjk we bought new ems at the same time and I ended up getting the plat pro pnp. Now you’re making regret not getting the link with you.
link has features in its 1200$ ems that haltech puts in its 2500$ elite systems. Like knock frequency selection. All I have is threshold.

I have a non revup, so no exhaust cam control.

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Originally Posted by Conway_160
Fella's there is a setting in Haltech thats supposed to fix the cruise issue.

https://forums.haltech.com/viewtopic.php?t=4289
dude thats the old harness version. I run the pro plug in version. With that, my decel cut by RPM is at 100ms for most RPM.

The new cruise control uses:
derivative
max throttle rate in %/Sec (open\close rate..how quickly it can spike the throttle)
speed error for max throttle rate in mph. (error point at which the max rate should be applicable)

It basically loses speed, then hammers the throttle. The PI of the PID loop are not exposed to the user which are the MOST critical component of a PID loop (generally the D is not used).

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Switched from the Platinum Pro to the Elite 2500,
the long term learning features for 02 control, Cam phasing and boost control helped with dialing in tuning quickly.
Knock control is considerably improved over the Platinum Pro.
I've tuned EMS Stinger, AEM V1 and V2 and find Haltech ESP software (with definitions) to be user friendly and quickly adaptable.
I'm a member of HP Academy and find that Andre is seemingly biased towards Link.
EvansTuning has a comprehensive course on the Elite series of ECUs that you'll find helpful should you decide to go Haltech.
Additionally, Haltech's customer support is amongst the best in the industry.
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Originally Posted by superpreditor
Switched from the Platinum Pro to the Elite 2500,
the long term learning features for 02 control, Cam phasing and boost control helped with dialing in tuning quickly.
Knock control is considerably improved over the Platinum Pro.
I've tuned EMS Stinger, AEM V1 and V2 and find Haltech ESP software (with definitions) to be user friendly and quickly adaptable.
I'm a member of HP Academy and find that Andre is seemingly biased towards Link.
EvansTuning has a comprehensive course on the Elite series of ECUs that you'll find helpful should you decide to go Haltech.
Additionally, Haltech's customer support is amongst the best in the industry.
I think HP Academy and Link are buddy buddy...but that's not to say they dont do stuff with Haltech but alot of Link on their tutorials!

I think Haltech's software is easier to understand and learn. I do think Link is laid-out better but it does take some time to learn it.

We must be talking about different customer support because it was non-existent when I needed it.

How much did you spend on the Elite? What all did you have to / choose to buy with it?

EvansTuning looks like good material but is pretty expensive -

I doubt I'll return to Haltech - I'm pretty invested in the Link and it has everything that I want (and some) and I think Haltech is overpriced.

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Originally Posted by bealljk
I think HP Academy and Link are buddy buddy...but that's not to say they dont do stuff with Haltech but alot of Link on their tutorials!

I think Haltech's software is easier to understand and learn. I do think Link is laid-out better but it does take some time to learn it.

We must be talking about different customer support because it was non-existent when I needed it.

How much did you spend on the Elite? What all did you have to / choose to buy with it?

EvansTuning looks like good material but is pretty expensive -

I doubt I'll return to Haltech - I'm pretty invested in the Link and it has everything that I want (and some) and I think Haltech is overpriced.
I found your build thread, real nice. That exhaust manifold is the stuff of Legend.

I haven't had any issues with Haltech, both their US and Australian offices have been super helpful.
When I installed the elite 2500 in the 350z (I suspect I was one of the first), Dynosty made me a custom jumper harness and Haltech was helpful getting the CAN settings up and running, as they weren't publicly available as yet.



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Hey superpredator. The issue with your exhaust cams.. did you ever find a fix for that? i'm still chasing my tail here... At first the cams were retarding and advancing fine, then one day it started porpoising so i changed the exhaust phasers and sprockets.. now it wont even do anything. I sent the Ecu to haltech usa and they sent it back saying no problems..

The issues that i have with haltech are the same ones mentioned by Bealjk. Cam issues MPG.. I thought it was a haltech thing but now i think it may be a plat pro pnp thing.
I did notice that Dynosty is offfering a pnp elite 2500 solution now. It may be due to superpred's car and i'm glad they do. It really sucks that there's no traction control, for the range of the plat pro pnp. I'm gonna have another go at messing with the freq and pid settings once i get off work.
Anyone willing to share their exh cam freq and pid settings?

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Originally Posted by Tran251
Hey superpredator. The issue with your exhaust cams.. did you ever find a fix for that? i'm still chasing my tail here... At first the cams were retarding and advancing fine, then one day it started porpoising so i changed the exhaust phasers and sprockets.. now it wont even do anything. I sent the Ecu to haltech usa and they sent it back saying no problems..
I'm not using exhaust cam phasing currently, running Kelford 272s for the vq35de and was advised by someone on the forum that the lift and additional spring tension caused them problems, so I by passed it.
I had cam phasing issues previously and it turned out to be the intake and non oem camshaft sensors.
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Even Ben at JWT said that i should bypass and get their adjustable exh cam sprockets , set it and forget it.. I'll probably go that route if i cant find a solution by next month.
Thanks for the help super pred.
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I don't use exhaust cam timing either … lol

I guess Haltech is releasing the 'Nexus' … Hence the lower prices on the Elite.
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
RevUp is a DE. Known issue about having to restart engine to clear (mine does it and will run like crap until I simply restart).

Matthew is simply a buffer to haltech engineering\developers. He is helpful but limited.

DPI issue with their wiring (was not the analog) https://forums.haltech.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=13763

Also their goofy *** boost control.

I ran the harness and now the plugin. I have the expander box and their WBO2...so haltech has me for over 3k. **** should work.
when I was looking for a solution to control my meth injection failsafe I came across that thread you posted. Very helpful.
If I would’ve known that I could’ve used the dpo with a solid state hella relay with a fly back diode, I wouldn’t have bought the snow 2.5 controller.
Every time someone would ask about controlling meth injection with the haltech they would say just tune safe and you won’t have to use it. Which is true. But not the answer people were looking for.
I ended up joining the fbgroup “ methanol injection tuning” and they’ve been so helpful.
also the fb group “haltech tuning and tips” is a great group also. There’s a lot of tuning knowledge on there.
I still may need to ask for help on the actual failsafe wiring From you guys though.
mom running 330cc post intercooler and direct 95cc port injection. It’s so hot and humid in the summers here so it helps with the knock. I set my threshold to 120 knock to de tune a few degrees if I get a bad batch of gas or the car sat for longer than 2 months.
how’d you guys set up a failsafe? Direct relay cut the boost solenoid or as an Avi input cut of no flow from the flow sensor?
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I don't use exhaust cam timing either … lol

I guess Haltech is releasing the 'Nexus' … Hence the lower prices on the Elite.
the tuner at Corr performance was the one making me feel like it’s a major mistake turning off the exhaust cam phasers. He said that’s where our engines make the most power. Now I believe that it’s just a mid rpm torque thing.
I’m on the fence about just going ahead and purchasing a new left and right exh cam phaser set. 1300$ is a tough pill to swallow if it still doesn’t work though.
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