dilemma 4.083 gears or stock gearing
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Originally Posted by Justin@IOS
Here's some other numbers...
Approx maximum speed (mph) in each gear. Assuming stock size tires and 7500rpm redline.
3.53 gears - 3.91 gears - 4.08 gears
1st - 44 - 40 - 38
2nd - 72 - 65 - 63
3rd - 104 - 94 - 90
4th - 133 - 120 - 115
5th - 169 - 152 - 146
6th - 212 - 192 - 184
Once again, feel free to verify these numbers, my calculator may be off a bit?
Approx maximum speed (mph) in each gear. Assuming stock size tires and 7500rpm redline.
3.53 gears - 3.91 gears - 4.08 gears
1st - 44 - 40 - 38
2nd - 72 - 65 - 63
3rd - 104 - 94 - 90
4th - 133 - 120 - 115
5th - 169 - 152 - 146
6th - 212 - 192 - 184
Once again, feel free to verify these numbers, my calculator may be off a bit?
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Originally Posted by kramykram
Ok finished my first tank of gas in my 08 with 351 miles. Thats with my 4.083 gears and jwt pop chargers i put on a couple of days ago. Not to bad on mileage even with the few times i hit the pedal hard.
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
yes it will, but not really that much. IIRC, youll be doing around 3k at 80 mph, but at 55-60 you would still get about the same mileage as stock gearing going 70
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
I had 4.083 gears in my last Z, and that is WAY off. at 65 it sits at around 3200rpm, at 80 it's above 4K and 55-60 its around 2700rpm, you will lose alot of mpg with these gears
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Originally Posted by 350Zimo
that's the reason that refrained me of adding this mod. Although, i dont daily drive the Z, i still want to enjoy some "harmony". My exhaust note triples from 2000rpm to 4000rpm. It's annoyingly loud. However, the 4.08's are a great mod, if you want to shave some time off you 1/4, and drastically improve your acceleration. And besides i opened a savings for an FI, so the 4.08's are not in my list anymore
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
I actually heard this one story where both guys had a 2006 Z, one had stock gears and the other had 4.083's and the z with stock gearing was actually pulling away, so really their not worth it.
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Originally Posted by 350Zimo
No 4.083 gears would make a difference. I too think that the driver of the stock z really sucked
Originally Posted by kramykram
lol wow thats about a bad way to make a judgement on getting gears or not. how do you know the driver who had the gears just didn't suck?
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
would love to hear THAT logical explanation
We did a little experiment back when I had my '04 Z. what we did was, before a had the 4.083 gears installed we did an acceleration test, basically I'd be going the speed limit (65) in 5th and as soon I wen't underneath the lights at a 4 way I'd gun it, and directly in front of us was a bridge about 1/3 mile long, and when we hit the end of the bridge we would be going around 140 with stock gearing. With the 4.083 gears, it would only reach 120, so theoretically it got slower.
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
I had 4.083 gears in my last Z, and that is WAY off. at 65 it sits at around 3200rpm, at 80 it's above 4K and 55-60 its around 2700rpm, you will lose alot of mpg with these gears
I have 4.08 gears and with a 285/35x19 rear tire 80 miles per hour is 3400 rpm. My last tank of gas averaged 18.6 miles per gallon with city and some highway driving.
4.08 gears are a great mod... and I don't even have an HR.
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Originally Posted by __jb
Not true...
I have 4.08 gears and with a 285/35x19 rear tire 80 miles per hour is 3400 rpm. My last tank of gas averaged 18.6 miles per gallon with city and some highway driving.
4.08 gears are a great mod... and I don't even have an HR.
I have 4.08 gears and with a 285/35x19 rear tire 80 miles per hour is 3400 rpm. My last tank of gas averaged 18.6 miles per gallon with city and some highway driving.
4.08 gears are a great mod... and I don't even have an HR.
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
their ok, and I had the 4.08's in my '04 Z, not my current '07, and going 65 i WAS at 3300 rpm, and my gas mileage was horrible.
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
We did a little experiment back when I had my '04 Z. what we did was, before a had the 4.083 gears installed we did an acceleration test, basically I'd be going the speed limit (65) in 5th and as soon I wen't underneath the lights at a 4 way I'd gun it, and directly in front of us was a bridge about 1/3 mile long, and when we hit the end of the bridge we would be going around 140 with stock gearing. With the 4.083 gears, it would only reach 120, so theoretically it got slower.
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
There was actually a post a while ago explaning the whole thing, but it really comes down to the fact that the Z with 4.083 gears has to shift more often than the one with standard gears.
We did a little experiment back when I had my '04 Z. what we did was, before a had the 4.083 gears installed we did an acceleration test, basically I'd be going the speed limit (65) in 5th and as soon I wen't underneath the lights at a 4 way I'd gun it, and directly in front of us was a bridge about 1/3 mile long, and when we hit the end of the bridge we would be going around 140 with stock gearing. With the 4.083 gears, it would only reach 120, so theoretically it got slower.
We did a little experiment back when I had my '04 Z. what we did was, before a had the 4.083 gears installed we did an acceleration test, basically I'd be going the speed limit (65) in 5th and as soon I wen't underneath the lights at a 4 way I'd gun it, and directly in front of us was a bridge about 1/3 mile long, and when we hit the end of the bridge we would be going around 140 with stock gearing. With the 4.083 gears, it would only reach 120, so theoretically it got slower.
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
you clearly had an inconsistency with the tests. you didnt have to shift in either one, so were the conditions the same? with shorting gearing you would certainly get there faster, thats just how it works
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you know what guys, i hear so much about this mod and i really want it but honestly speaking does anyone here have real in depth knowledge on how this will effect gas mileage??
so far i've read "horrible","terrible","not too much" and "inconsistency".
i clearly understand that this WILL effect gas milage but i just want to know on average by how much....and for someone to test this out stock vs modded will be hard/impossible to do just to prove a point but if someone has good knowledge of the physics of the gearbox and engine, please enlighten us.
so far i've read "horrible","terrible","not too much" and "inconsistency".
i clearly understand that this WILL effect gas milage but i just want to know on average by how much....and for someone to test this out stock vs modded will be hard/impossible to do just to prove a point but if someone has good knowledge of the physics of the gearbox and engine, please enlighten us.