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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Lol, he said "bolt it in"
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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well ill let you guys know on how my little project goes and of course ill post the results on how everything goes, i just hope i can find a real good mechanic who knows what there doing.
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i cant wait bro ^^^ best of luck man!
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Originally Posted by T_K
Honestly, anyone with an HR, a realistic goal is 50whp gain from stock, on an untouched longblock. In dynojet speak, aim for 300whp, if you come a little short, it's ok, if you go over, more power to you.

If building the block, I think 350whp is a nice realistic goal, on a standard dynojet that is. Otherwise, 70-90whp over stock. This is an expensive route too.

For anything above 350whp, for reliability sake, just swap an LSX or a VK.
That's false. Expensive true but our engines are still in the beginning phases of tuning. Also Cosworth, their build was 438 hp, so on a mustang dyno or dd that's roughly 370-380 rwhp without ITB's. The Amuse 380 RS (amazing in person) makes 380hp and the only difference between the HR and 380RS is some minor bolt ons Amuse added and the 3.8l stroker kit Nissan provided on the low production 380 rs. Also here in Japan there's quite a few shops around here that make well into the 400's range on dd type dynos. Top Secret did a built a little while ago on an R32 and got somewhere in the 400's range. Were not talking DJ numbers either.

Just because people say something is not worth it doesn't mean it shouldn't be tried. With the proper build sheet I'm more than willing to bet that making 350 rwhp on a midly built DE is not impossible. Once manufacturers begin to build ITB setups like Jenvey, and long tube headers that will drastically change the output of the VQ.
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well ill let you guys know on how my little project goes and of course ill post the results on how everything goes, i just hope i can find a real good mechanic who knows what there doing.
Vinny Ten can help you with all your needs.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Where can I find the amuse stroker kit for my hr motor?
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Nissan offers a 5-yr/60,000 mile engine/powertrain warranty. Name 1 shop that will offer the same, on a fully in-house built engine/powertrain.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NoWin
That's false. Expensive true but our engines are still in the beginning phases of tuning. Also Cosworth, their build was 438 hp, so on a mustang dyno or dd that's roughly 370-380 rwhp without ITB's. The Amuse 380 RS (amazing in person) makes 380hp and the only difference between the HR and 380RS is some minor bolt ons Amuse added and the 3.8l stroker kit Nissan provided on the low production 380 rs. Also here in Japan there's quite a few shops around here that make well into the 400's range on dd type dynos. Top Secret did a built a little while ago on an R32 and got somewhere in the 400's range. Were not talking DJ numbers either.

Just because people say something is not worth it doesn't mean it shouldn't be tried. With the proper build sheet I'm more than willing to bet that making 350 rwhp on a midly built DE is not impossible. Once manufacturers begin to build ITB setups like Jenvey, and long tube headers that will drastically change the output of the VQ.
Why don't you reread my post instead of getting defensive about everything. Otherwise, post up 1 of any of those built motors that offers a 5yr/60k mile warranty, any tuning shop of your choice.

Nowhere in my post did I say that it was impossible. I said for the sake of reliability, if searching for more naturally aspirated power exceeding 350whp, it's just as practical, and far more mechanically reliable to swap over to an LSX or VK.

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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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I would love to have a V8 swap. Chris forsberg's 350z with the VK56 sounds ridiculous
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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I would love to have a V8 swap. Chris forsberg's 350z with the VK56 sounds ridiculous
The deal gets even sweeter with the VK50 in the new FX (VVEL V8). We drive a very mainstream car, with mainstream parts, the engines themselves aren't ridiculously expensive. In comparison, a VQ37 is about half the cost of a C6 Z06 motor, and the VK is similar in price to a VQ.

They come fully factory assembled, with factory tolerances, and probably the same failure yield as the ones in the production vehicles.
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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I would say go headers and tune.. When u have $10-12k to dump into F/I... then you'll be ready.. that's what im gonna do at least.. Goodluck!

I plan to get headers and tune that is the last of my n/a bolt-ons... 1 or 2 yrs down the rd price drop in F/I hopefully vq35hr.. warranty starts slowly becoming useless at that point to me.

Good kits to consider..

GTM TT Kit
STS TURBO Kit (still in progress)
Greddy TT Kit
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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ill take you're advice on that bigmo ill let you know the results when im done with a tune
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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^ sounds good keep us updated
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Maybe it's my age (60), but the 287 ponies/270ftlbs torque in my 04.5 Touring Coupe feel just s-w-e-e-t. I added a drop-in K&N, and am squeezing two weeks out of a tankful (but, then again, I live only 9.5 miles from work). The age factor definitely has to do with the perception of horsepower/torque/powerband bits!

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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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I don't know why everyone always asks for tricks etc.... theres no tricks to internal combustion engines. you need to get more air/fuel into the engine and make it flow more efficently. Either making more displacement adding f/i or upping the compression..... thats it?!

You can also address traction/suspension and changing the gear ratio's etc....

Have fun modding!!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Just go to vinny ten he can help you ....
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NoWin
That's false. Expensive true but our engines are still in the beginning phases of tuning. Also Cosworth, their build was 438 hp, so on a mustang dyno or dd that's roughly 370-380 rwhp without ITB's. The Amuse 380 RS (amazing in person) makes 380hp and the only difference between the HR and 380RS is some minor bolt ons Amuse added and the 3.8l stroker kit Nissan provided on the low production 380 rs. Also here in Japan there's quite a few shops around here that make well into the 400's range on dd type dynos. Top Secret did a built a little while ago on an R32 and got somewhere in the 400's range. Were not talking DJ numbers either.

Just because people say something is not worth it doesn't mean it shouldn't be tried. With the proper build sheet I'm more than willing to bet that making 350 rwhp on a midly built DE is not impossible. Once manufacturers begin to build ITB setups like Jenvey, and long tube headers that will drastically change the output of the VQ.
The Cosworth engine that made that power is a 3.8 liter, not a 3.5 liter. Big difference .

The 380RS engine is a different animal from a VQ35HR. The RS is based on a std VQ, but taken to the next level, from a factory standpoint. Several differences (like the cams and the 3.8l displacement) are why it makes significantly more power than the 3.5, yet retains a full warranty.

Top Secrets R32 with the ITB's and VQ35 did not get into the 400's at the wheels.

"Also here in Japan there's quite a few shops around here that make well into the 400's range on dd type dynos"

Would love to see info on just 1 of these examples.

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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by venom718
Where can I find the amuse stroker kit for my hr motor?
you don't because amuse doesn't make a stroker kit. One of their demo cars started as a 380RS, which uses a factory Nissan 3.8 liter engine, vs the std 3.5 liter. The engines are not offered for sale separately, as it's a limited run of cars Nissan did for the Japan market only

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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Blck350z
I don't know why everyone always asks for tricks etc.... theres no tricks to internal combustion engines. you need to get more air/fuel into the engine and make it flow more efficently. Either making more displacement adding f/i or upping the compression..... thats it?!

You can also address traction/suspension and changing the gear ratio's etc....

Have fun modding!!!!
For some reason people seem to have trouble grasping this concept. The internal combustion engine has changed very little over the past 50 years. Materials have improved, efficiency has increased, but the same basic operating procedure is exactly the same.
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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I'd love to see this come to fruition! 350+ rwhp in an N/A Z would be crazy cool....
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