Figure Id pass along this email for us HR guys to see. I see that Koyo has finally came out with an aluminum Rad for the HR. I've found it online for as low as 350, which is a pretty good price.

But I know Mishimoto's prices are usually pretty fantastic so I emailed them earlier today asking when do we get some love.

Hi Ronald,



This is in production and should be released in the next two weeks.



Thanks,


Thats straight from their mouth, I know I've seen a few guys on here asking about cooling options. Plus I'm just looking for ways to spoil my Z

 

I found that Koyo too. On some random site. I'm waiting for Z1 to pick it up before I get it though.

 

we ordered a bunch of the Koyo, coming in soon!

 

 

Looking forward to it! Stock radiator = JUNK.

 

i don't think i'd wanna buy anything from mishimoto

see first pic...

http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...ually-CDM.aspx

 

Don't disagree with you about Mishimoto, although for different reasons. I think the writeup you linked to was poorly written. It's "evidence" was shaky and it lacked substance by way of research. Products by all processes and quality standards bare with them a possibility of failure and they do so with more frequency than the writer of that article would (surely) like to admit. Also, many of his accusations on poor engineering and lack of fabrication skill are baseless- China wouldn't be able to punch out the sheer volume of parts it does without some form of blue print and/or CNC machinery. And you don't need to be able to graduate second grade in order to successfully operate such machinery. That's not where the problem lies.

 

the main problem is research and development and quality control, thats the 2 biggest problems with cheap china crap. sure it was drafted and made on a CNC machine, but products need to be developed to make sure they fit AND work properly, not just somehow sqeeze in there...

this guy's (same site, different authors, see below) article is better written and prolly a bit more thought out, i just posted that one cause it specifically had a pic of a mishimoto product

http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...ott-Fakes.aspx

 

I had to deal with few factories in china and I have some horror stories that make me puke about those fact.
BUT.
there is a big BUT.

A LOT of people don't give a damn about the quality of the product. they are happy to show they have an aftermarket radiator, that they have coilovers, that they have installed A LOT of "stuff" to customize their car and they'll NEVER drive that car... it's a sanctuary, not a car and WAY FAR from a performance car (you know... if you really drive the car in a proper environment you'll probably chip the paint or gain few dents and that is unacceptable.)

what is dangerous are actually the reviews of people (and quite sometimes vendors) that are telling you that rotora brakes are actually REAL racing brakes and they work better than the stock brembos.... and so on.

a REAL race car cost a lot of money... and not because those people are stupid snobs and that car HAS to cost a lot... that's money business and you cannot afford to put parts that aren't going to sustain that kind of use...
more that that... you cannot afford to have a suspension arm to split in 2 because you hit a rumble strip or a pothole... or a brake caliper to "explode".

that just to say that there are two different markets...
the posing market where the chinese crap actually works...
and a racing market where also a lot of the "mainstream brand" are just a pile of junk thinks to use those as real racing components.

 

Lol. I didn't realize they were a crap company. I guess I seen a lot of ads and people with there stuff that I assumed they were decent. Well at least Adam is carrying the Koyo for us now

 

This second write up is better prepared (although I think the author is addressing a somewhat different topic).

I think more people need to be made aware of the long term consequences of buying knockoff performance parts as well as the short term. Especially in today's economy, it's important that the people still spending money do so as close to home as possible (In fact, it'd be nice if those who've stopped spending would start again. The economy isn't stimulated by hording cash). Particularly in cases like this, they'll be happier for it in the long run, and they'll help domestic soil based companies who make legitimate quality products stay afloat.

 

agree with everthing you posted here

looks like we share the same opinion on rotora brakes... so someone should (shameless plug) buy my brand new stoptech's: https://my350z.com/forum/brakes/4563...8-f-r-bbk.html