what exactly do these do for non-adjustable sway bars?

are these better than stock...i have the nismo sways and was thinking about getting them but unless they provide some kind of adjustment what good are they besides looks

kinda pricey too....you can find them at performance nissan

 

I'm installing mine tomorrow (thanks Performance Nissan).

I think they are stronger for starters. I've had the Nismo sways & s-tune suspension on my car for about 2 years now (I imported them from Japan).

About 6 months ago I noticed that I was getting a mild clunk noise from both front and back, which of course drove me nuts. This was mainly because I had re-torqued everything down from the suspension install and it didn't eliminate the noise.

Through happenstance I was looking at one of the drop links when I was putting on my Stoptech brakes and just reached over and gave it a push. It clunked, and then I pretty much felt this is what the problem was.

I'm not sure but I think the track days and the suspension may cause issues for the stock drop links over time. I'm sure others have beat their harder and had no problems but at least one in front and one in back on my car make this noise.

I'll be installing these tomorrow and hope this resolves the issue but just looking at them it's clear that the new ones are much stronger than the stockers.

If the clunk continues then it's remove and reinstall the whole suspension so I hope this is it...

 

let me know....hope it solves your problem. i noticed they are adjustable links....what would you need to adjust on these joints?

thanks for the info...i will keep that in mind if i hear any clunking in the future

 

It seems to have resolved the front clunk pretty well. I didn't do the rears cause I want to talk to Performance Nissan first.

I need to call Performance Nissan as it doesn't seem possible to torque to the specification in the FSM with the provided parts. I have Nismo front and rear sway bars already, but not the adjustable ones.

On the bottom (with the big spacer) you just reach the end of the threaded portion of the bolt right as it gets tight. It just spins from there and can't be torqued to spec.

On the top bolt (this is on the front btw) there is a good 1/8" space once the threads run out on the bolt. I ended up going to the local autoparts store and getting additonal washers to make it fit, and even then I ended up not being able to torque the blasted thing. I could add more washers but I realized I better call them first thing Monday to be sure this was OK.

Note - The only 16mm wrench you may ever need on the suspension of this car is used with these drop links. In addition, the only 18mm wrench you may ever use on the suspension of this car is used with these drop links.

Now, I have a pretty full tool set, but for some reason my Craftsman open/box end wrench set went from 15mm to 17mm and didn't include an 18mm.

So it was a trip to Sears and a trip to get some washers to get just the fronts in.

 

i hate when that shiiiiaat happens....man you would think this would be a direct bolt in...what a pain. glad to hear you got the noise problem fixed though....hope the rears are easier.

i have the nismo non-adjustable sways too...so i am interested to see how the rest of your installation goes.

 

I have to say that it does seem that the car has better turn in now. I set the new drop links to about 1/2" shorter than the stockers.

As I understand it, the adjustability does influence the characteristics the sway's exhibit. It sure feels like there is a difference but it may just be that the stock parts were thrashed, thus the clunk...

 

Youre right, the heim joints will be more responsive and is more versatile due to the adjustability. Great suspension mod.

 

according to ksj though andy, he had to get washers to complete the install. how bout your manufacturing guys putting a little more threads on the links so this does not happen. i don't like to have to buy additional hardware when i'm buying a "bolt-on" mod such as these. since i am considering getting these to supplement my sways it would be in your best interest to correct the problem....unless thats the way they are supposed to be installed.

 

Majority of the things we sell are always complete with all necessary hardware, maybe it was just his set that was packaged wrong from Nismo, Im not too sure. I will contact Nismo and find out if there are any necessary parts that are NOT included when buying the heim links, if additional hardware is needed, I will get with Jeff and Jason on putting a kit together. More info to come tomorrow. Thanks for letting me know whats going on on the other end as a consumer, it helps us to improve ourselves as a tuner shop.

 

hey, thats what customer service is all about...thats what keeps as well as gains a broader customer base...thanks

 

I just got more info and like I assumed, when ordering the heim links, all necessary hardware is included with purchase.

 

Well, they don't fit the non-adjustable Nismo sways without additional washers.

Each bolt came with 4 washers for the top and bottom. The two for the bottom front each had a large spacer as well.

When you install the top bolts with the non-adjustable Nismo sways you will have about 1/8" of unthreaded bolt after you tighten them down. The only way to resolve this was to put in additional washers. Even then I should probably reinstall and add another couple of washers so that I can torque them down to spec.

If (when that is) I pull it all apart again I'll post some pics of the situation.

They have resolved the clunk I was getting in the front however, so I'm happy about that.

 

so these links are made for the adjustable nismo sways?

if thats the case then no problem....but if they can work for the both sets of sways then you performance nissan needs to add more washers to the non- adjustable sway bar kit or add more threads to your joint pieces.

i'm curious to see if anyone has installed the joints on the nismo adjustable sways....performance nissan should be able to answer this question too.

 

Okay, Ive attempted to do a little research but my contact at Nismo hasnt called me back yet but from what I did find out is that these heim links will work with any sway bar setup, I.E stock, Nismo, or the Nismo adjustable one we offer. All necessary hardware is included and no stock parts need to be reused. ksj - Im not sure what happened to yours, maybe it was packaged wrong from Nismo when it was shipped out but Ive double checked the ones we have in stock and all hardware is packaged. We have sold quite a few of these and have had no complaints so far. Sorry about the inconvenience.

 

I'm not familiar with the term 'drop links'.

Are we talking about sway bar end links?

 

Yup.

Pic's on this thread: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....hreadid=103748

 

what benefit does the adjustments of the joints offer?

how would you know what settings to adjust the links?

or, are these just stronger than the stock links and you adjust them according to the manual specifications?

thanks all for the responses....