why 20's?
Originally Posted by LiLxDooD
dude, gatti-man. Quit Saying poser. In one of your sentences you said "I never said there was anything wrong with posing just it is what it is." Making it sound like you are trying to say "poser" in a nice way. Well there is no nice way in sayin it, so quit sayin it. "Poser" is and will always be a diss to people.
Bling, Dub, Ghetto, Show are nothing close to poser. They dont even mean the same thing. So basically dont mean poser, unless you are tryin to diss some people on this forum, which i dont think you intentionally meant to do.
No i dont mean to intentional diss anyone. What word would you use. Yes poser can be negative but that is what 20's are to me. They are an item that looks like its for performance but actually is not. It shows sports car when it is really just for looks. Plus i did say i like the looks of those cars but they are really just good for looks and thats it. Dont add performance. It cracks me up that everyone on here shuns big wings and other ricer mods yet something that fits into that category of being all show no go yet people love it.
Last edited by gatti-man; Aug 29, 2005 at 10:13 PM.
I think it all comes down to there is racing and show. I doubt many people would take their 20's to the track because it hurts performance a bit (unsprung weight isnt that detrimental to it all if you are pushing 400 hp like some on here are), and it costs to much to replace 20's. So I dont think you can say they dont care about performance and are all show. 95% of people who own a sprts car probably do not track them. So that said with your definition of poser says there are a lot of posers running the streets.
Originally Posted by digital1
why do so many people want to put 20's on z's. 19's is even pushing it. it ruins the performance. just so u guys can say, "i got 20's on ma whip" lol. i say if u want 20's, buy a truck, or a old impala and put chrome 20's. too much show with 20's, dont wreck ure z's. porches, ferraris and lambos dont have 20's, they r too big and wreck the performance. we drive sports cars. what do u guys think. yah i was kinda bored.
Actually there is a factory Porsche like $500,000+ that has 20's in the rear but I agree 20's are lame.
Originally Posted by ARLETOS 350Z
Actually when going +33 front and +34rear with 9-20 and 10-20 rear(245/30 and 285/30) i dont think that you rape your handling and generaly your performance.
Originally Posted by gatti-man
Its the weight. Granted there are forged 20's but even those are not light. Non forged 20's weigh up to 50lbs per wheel! Most of the ones on here arent forged and weigh around 30-40 lbs. Thats a ton of added unsprung weight then plus added eight from wider tires. I forget the ratio but adding 1lb of unsprung weight is like adding 5 sprung weight punds so adding say conservativly 10lbs per wheel is like adding 200 lbs total to your car! It may even be more.
200 lbs!?!? I better not take a passenger! I may not be able to keep up with traffic.
Ok, all sarcasm aside, the minor performance hit that my wheels give me while on the street is not even noticeable. It is not like I am drag racing from every stoplight and need the extra 1/10th of a second, or so, that I am missing. I think that it looks much better with a bigger wheel. Now granted, some are way over the topfor my taste, but I am not going to hate on somebody's decision to do whatever they want to do to THEIR car. If I were to track the car, I would change the wheels for some lightweight 17's or 18's.
Ok, all sarcasm aside, the minor performance hit that my wheels give me while on the street is not even noticeable. It is not like I am drag racing from every stoplight and need the extra 1/10th of a second, or so, that I am missing. I think that it looks much better with a bigger wheel. Now granted, some are way over the topfor my taste, but I am not going to hate on somebody's decision to do whatever they want to do to THEIR car. If I were to track the car, I would change the wheels for some lightweight 17's or 18's.
"To Each His Own". (Period)
Next thing you know, we'll be debating "Why Roadsters" since they are heavier than the Coupes, structurally less rigid, & essentially doesn't serve any performance gains but that doesn't mean I'll call them "Posers". Different people have different tastes & different reasons why they buy the car they have. So to answer your question as to "why"....it's because that's what THEY like.
These "opinion" based debates always takes you around in circles
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Next thing you know, we'll be debating "Why Roadsters" since they are heavier than the Coupes, structurally less rigid, & essentially doesn't serve any performance gains but that doesn't mean I'll call them "Posers". Different people have different tastes & different reasons why they buy the car they have. So to answer your question as to "why"....it's because that's what THEY like.
These "opinion" based debates always takes you around in circles
Originally Posted by GTNPU Z
"To Each His Own". (Period)
Next thing you know, we'll be debating "Why Roadsters" since they are heavier than the Coupes, structurally less rigid, & essentially doesn't serve any performance gains but that doesn't mean I'll call them "Posers". Different people have different tastes & different reasons why they buy the car they have. So to answer your question as to "why"....it's because that's what THEY like.
These "opinion" based debates always takes you around in circles
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Next thing you know, we'll be debating "Why Roadsters" since they are heavier than the Coupes, structurally less rigid, & essentially doesn't serve any performance gains but that doesn't mean I'll call them "Posers". Different people have different tastes & different reasons why they buy the car they have. So to answer your question as to "why"....it's because that's what THEY like.
These "opinion" based debates always takes you around in circles
Originally Posted by xsmallpaulx
here is a picture of a ferrari w/ 22's and 2 lambos w/ 20's, and dont tell me that you would rather have those cars right there w/ 17 inch wheels. so when you ask why 20's there is the answer.
I would rather have 17 than 20s on the Z
Just like the slammed front/jacked rear look... all rediculous to me, might as well put fire stickers
Originally Posted by Nano
I wouldn't put those wheels on those cars if I was paid to
I would rather have 17 than 20s on the Z
Just like the slammed front/jacked rear look... all rediculous to me, might as well put fire stickers
I would rather have 17 than 20s on the Z
Just like the slammed front/jacked rear look... all rediculous to me, might as well put fire stickers
I had a customer come to my shop and see my Z and didn't like my Lambo Doors and then proceeded to ask me how much to Suicide Door his Z. Now's that's f'n Ridiculous however although I cast judgement upon him I still don't understand why people do what they do... if you want to know why people put on 20's or what have you... go study psychology and you may get a better answer. Why 20's - I'll give you the same answer someone gave me for "why put headrest monitors in a Z" "Because you can"
BTW I run tucked 19's on my car. It's absolutely ridiculous... but damn if don't look tight and gets spinning when they see it. It's all Show and barely any go.
BTW I run tucked 19's on my car. It's absolutely ridiculous... but damn if don't look tight and gets spinning when they see it. It's all Show and barely any go.
Originally Posted by xsmallpaulx
hahahah funny, comparing $8000 gfg rims to fire stickers. i love pep boys specials
Last edited by Nano; Aug 30, 2005 at 06:05 PM.
Originally Posted by Badmonkey_1
200 lbs!?!? I better not take a passenger! I may not be able to keep up with traffic.
Ok, all sarcasm aside, the minor performance hit that my wheels give me while on the street is not even noticeable. It is not like I am drag racing from every stoplight and need the extra 1/10th of a second, or so, that I am missing. I think that it looks much better with a bigger wheel. Now granted, some are way over the topfor my taste, but I am not going to hate on somebody's decision to do whatever they want to do to THEIR car. If I were to track the car, I would change the wheels for some lightweight 17's or 18's.
Ok, all sarcasm aside, the minor performance hit that my wheels give me while on the street is not even noticeable. It is not like I am drag racing from every stoplight and need the extra 1/10th of a second, or so, that I am missing. I think that it looks much better with a bigger wheel. Now granted, some are way over the topfor my taste, but I am not going to hate on somebody's decision to do whatever they want to do to THEIR car. If I were to track the car, I would change the wheels for some lightweight 17's or 18's.
Originally Posted by LiLxDooD
oh yea, yo my 19s are performance! they weigh less then my stocks! HA! So if my volk 19s weigh less, i bet volk 20s weigh bout the same, give or take some. So YEaH!
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Originally Posted by GTNPU Z
Yep. My forged 20's weigh the same as my OEM 18's
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.Your forged 20s are the equiavalent of 6lbs per wheel heavier than the stock 18"... which is borderline insane heavy.



