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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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The "QUICK & THE TREAD..."

I must say I was VERY surprised at the results, and am re-thinking my future tire purchases... My beloved Toyo's didn't fair too well.

Excellent article and real-world testing!

Tires Tested:

BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
Continental ContiSportContact 2
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
Goodyear Eagle F1
Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212
Kumho Ecsta MX
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Pirelli P Zero Rosso Asimmetrico
Toyo Proxes T1R
Yokohama Advan Neova AD07


http://www.caranddriver.com/article....ticle_id=10252

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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I'm gonna try one of these (2nd & 1st place) depending on which I can get at the best price:

Continental ContiSport Contact 2




Goodyear F1 GS-D3

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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[QUOTE=TXSTYLE]The "QUICK & THE TREAD..."

I must say I was VERY surprised at the results, and am re-thinking my future tire purchases... My beloved Toyo's didn't fair too well.

Excellent article and real-world testing!

Tires Tested:

BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
Continental ContiSportContact 2
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
Goodyear Eagle F1
Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212
Kumho Ecsta MX
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Pirelli P Zero Rosso Asimmetrico
Toyo Proxes T1R
Yokohama Advan Neova AD07




Wondering why they didn't test the Bridgestone S-03 pole position. It has been the benchmark for a number of years
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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I wish they had tested the BFG KDW-2 rather than the KD's. If their whole test was around the best all-around performance tire, the KDW-2 would have def been at least top 5 if not top 3.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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yea i have kd and kwd's, that's bull**** that they tested the kd's. like they didn't know what the outcome would be
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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I too have the KDW-2's and they perform flawlessly! The original tread pattern doesnt compare to the new tread pattern. I DEMAND A RE-TEST!!
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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+1 on the KWD-2's, one of the best looking and Performing summer tire!
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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"Toyo says its new T1R has "high-modulus bead apex rubber." You probably don't know what that means, and neither do we. This wasn't much more clear: "Spiral-wound, jointless edge and capplies." If this test were based on no comprendo engineer-speak, Toyo would win."

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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Continental? 2nd?!? What?

I used to buy the cheapie Continentals for my 87 Civic back in high school/college. They were terrible....but cheap.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Continental? 2nd?!? What?

I used to buy the cheapie Continentals for my 87 Civic back in high school/college. They were terrible....but cheap.
My bmw came with continentals. Porsches do also. They're not "cheapy"
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 002-M-P
I wish they had tested the BFG KDW-2 rather than the KD's. If their whole test was around the best all-around performance tire, the KDW-2 would have def been at least top 5 if not top 3.
I agree, the last 2 threads with tire tests in them had the 2 magazines testing out the KD instead of the KDW-2. In both tests they were supposed to be for ultra-performance tires, but they both ended up testing for all season conditions so why they keep choosing the KD over the KDW-2 is beyond me.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Car & Driver gets paid under the table by alot of different manufacturers. Just like that one test comparing the Supra Turbo, VR-4, E36 M3, and 300ZXTT...and the BMW came in first???...for what?...being the most expensive, slowest of all four, or no leather or power seats? I bet BMW "sponsored" the test! F***K Car & Driver...nothing but a bunch of viagra addicted old farts.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm #1! Gotta admit, love my Eagles, but they do seem to attract nails (3 in 1 year).
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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I just installed the ContiSportContact2's in my car. I previously had Toyo T1S, and before that, the OEM RE040. The Toyo's were mushier than the RE040, but now that I have the Continental tires on, I'd say the ContiSportContacts are even more mushy than the Toyos. When I received my tires, the first thing I noticed is that the sidewalls are very soft.

After reading the review, I'd have to agree with the authors that these tires don't feel like performance tires at all. On another note, the ride quality (comfort) has improved drastically. Another benefit to the Continentals it that they are not directional, so you can flip them side to side to alleviate feathering if you have it.

I got 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 on sale at Tirerack for less than $800 shipped. That was a few months ago...it was really hard to beat that price.

In terms of performance, I really don't know yet. I don't have a track day scheduled for at least a month out.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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I am planning on putting kdw-2's on my 18s, but I am risking the fitment issue's of a 285/40 rather than the 275/40 just to run them
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Hey guys... on the KDW-2's... How is the "Wet Traction"? And Wear?
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Another HUGE complaint I have read on the KDW-2 is massive Road Noise...?
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Its pretty simple guys they didn't test the KDW-2's because they were testing "Max Performance Summer" tires not "Ultra High Performance" tires. The KD is BFG's top of the line product and that is what it appears that they picked for all the manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by g35bearcat
Its pretty simple guys they didn't test the KDW-2's because they were testing "Max Performance Summer" tires not "Ultra High Performance" tires. The KD is BFG's top of the line product and that is what it appears that they picked for all the manufacturers.
Actually, the KD is Max Performance which is HIGHER than Ultra-High Performance aka KDW-2 via tirerack.com

Also not true is that they picked the highest tire of each manufacturer. The Bridgestone RE050 is not bridgestone's highest nor is the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3.
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That Yoko is looking real nice
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