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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:09 AM
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We have found the widest wheel that will fit in the front of the 350Z is 9.5 inches wide and the rear wheel width is 10.5 without modification and 11.0 with a little modification, the tires rubs against the plastic shield that protech the fuel filler tube that goes from the gas tank. 265/30-19 is maximum tire size in width for the front and 295/35-19 is the widest we have been able to fit on thus far.

My 350Z (Axis 350Z) in yellow has 19x8.5 and 19x10.5 with 245/35-19 front and 295/35-19 rear. we are in developement to fit 20x10 rear on our new MOD wheel.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 03:15 AM
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Do you have any fitments with your new supermesh wheel in either 18 or 19.. I only saw them with a 35mm offset which is not correct... Also, do you know the weight of those wheels???
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 03:34 AM
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I just purchased a set of 19" Axis Mod. They have yet to arrive and I am in the process of finding tires for it.

Fronts were not an issue 245 35 19
Rears are becoming a PAIN!?

The only thing I can even SEE squeezing on there is a

-255 35 19 or a
-255 40 19

Not a soul on this message board seems to know which is better. One is too large, one is too small

Stock tire size is either
235 50 17
245 45 18

Please respond asap, i have to order today or tomorow morning.

Thanks
Scott
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 04:45 AM
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The guys that make HRE's (See HRE threads) have fitted 275 on fronts and drove it for a week without any problems. Write them and they will discuss that issue. I think the guys handle name is HREwheelmaker....check it out, Jeff
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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James? That you? 275s go easy!

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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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Default Hesitating on wheel widths

Bob:

Seems like you are checking this site so I will post my questions here. I did talk to Guy as you suggested. I want to bounce my questions at you too because it is the last day for group buy and I need to order my wheels.

As you know, I am debating between 255ft/285 rear combo or 275/295 combo on 18" wheels. I am still a little scared of possible tracking issues on large 275 fts. Is this fear nothing to worry about? My concern is if I order the 275/295 combo with 9.5/10.5 widths, I cannot reduce the tire sizes. Guy said if i wanted more flexibility to drop to 9/10 widths allowing me a range of 235 to 255 fts and 10 width of back allowing me to go 275-295 rears. His personal feeling was I would love the 275/295 combo and that the larger width wheels will make the fit optimal.

Give me your feedback again please. BTW, sorry for being hesitant on the 275/295 combo, it looks great and if it truely does have no negatives, i should get it. I just know that if i do not like it, i cannot reduce tire size with wide wheels so i want to make sure it is a great set up with no big negatives for common street driving. This car is a street car so no track issues will apply. Driveability on strret and looks are my concerns.

your humble consumer, Jeff

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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Hi Jeff,

I am to throwing around the same width issues that you are so I can get my HRE order in today also.

Here is what I think I am going to do. 19 x 9 rim front w/ 255/35/19 and 19 x 10.5 rim rear w/ 285/35/19. That way if I want to go wider in back (295) I'm covered and if I have tracking issues I can go smaller (245) on front.

What is the order cut off time do you know? I'm in central time zone.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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Call Paul at Avalon to get cut off time and if you can, post it. I think it is 5pm his time on the east coast but not sure...Jeff
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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I spoke with "Guy" at HRE. Here is his recommendations for wheel width vs tires size:

255 = 9 (9.5 ok but optimal)
265 = 9.5
275 = 9.5
285 = 10 (10.5 ok but not optimal)
295 = 10.5

Again, HRE builds cars width optimal tire/wheel combos with perfect offsets. If you want a offset that tucks the tire far inside the lip of the fender, they will give it to you if you insist, otherwise, all wheels will fit optimally. Same with wheel width. You can put a 285 wheel on a 10.5 wheel, it is not as optimal as on a 10" according to Guy. I hope this simplistic post helps but again, i am not the expert but HRE is.

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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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Thanks for the reply from HRE. I know the 285 on a 10.5" wheel is not optimal. I would really like a 295 rear and a 255 front set up but there is no single tire manufacture that makes both of those sizes either one or the other. I went to a 285 on the 10.5 rim in hopes I would get a slightly wider mounted width from the 285 and more of a difference between front to back.

Is the HRE Guy saying that a 285 on a 10.5" rim will look tucked in more?
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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ask HREwheelmaker, he is the man!
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Just talked to Paul at Avalon. He feels the 285 on a 10.5 rim will work real nice so I placed my order. Paul said I am number 8 and he is still waiting for your order so we will make the 9+ price break no problem.

He also said that there are 39 quotes out so if there is a large rush of orders yet today he may spread additional discounts to everyone.

Cheers!
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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If you are running 285 rears, what size wheel and tire are you going to run on the fronts?
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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The 285 actually works well on a 10.5", especially in the "R" (reverse) contour rims that the 440R series uses. We've done 285/35-19 on a 10, and the sidewalls actually overhang the bead a bit- the sidewalls sit flush on a 10.5. The 255/35-19 + 285/35-19 sizes are a terrific choice, by the way.

For a 255, I'd go 9.0", 9.5 will begin to stretch the tire ever so slightly.

I've optimized the 350Z set-ups to utilize the same 'frontspacing.' In other words, whether you order 8.5,9.0, or 9.5" front wheel widths, they will all sit the same relative to the fender (the additional width on the wider wheels goes towards the inside of the car).


On the tracking issues with the wider wheels & tires, I don't know where that info came from. In the two weeks I drove our SEMA Z, I never encountered any tracking, tramlining, or bump-steer issues- It drove like a 'normal' Z, albeit one with much higher cornering limits.

zland: I always build our show vehicles with wheel & tire combos that actually work in the 'real world.' Plenty of wheel companies kludge set-ups together to make an impact at a show... that's too easy. Making 'em fit right is challenging. I love a challenge...
If it were my car, I'd go 19x9.5 275/30-19 + 19x10.5 295/30-19 without any hesitation... good enough for you?
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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If you are running 285 rears, what size wheel and tire are you going to run on the fronts?
255/35/19 on a 9" rim.
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Guess I will ask again..

I just purchased a set of 19" Axis Mod. They have yet to arrive and I am in the process of finding tires for it.

Fronts were not an issue 245 35 19
Rears are becoming a PAIN!?

The only thing I can even SEE squeezing on there is a

-255 35 19 or a
-255 40 19

Not a soul on this message board seems to know which is better. One is too large, one is too small

Stock tire size is either
235 50 17
245 45 18

Please respond asap, i have to order today or tomorow morning.

Thanks
Scott
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by wadd3456
Guess I will ask again..

I just purchased a set of 19" Axis Mod. They have yet to arrive and I am in the process of finding tires for it.

Fronts were not an issue 245 35 19
Rears are becoming a PAIN!?

The only thing I can even SEE squeezing on there is a

-255 35 19 or a
-255 40 19

Not a soul on this message board seems to know which is better. One is too large, one is too small

Stock tire size is either
235 50 17
245 45 18

Please respond asap, i have to order today or tomorow morning.

Thanks
Scott
Better for what? Ride? Handling? Speedo accuracy? No alternate sized tire is going to be exact as stock. Even the two stock tires are different diameters.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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Yes, that is what I am saying.

WHICH do I need to be closer to? If i get close to ONE size (17) then im off from the other in the wrong direction. There is no happy medium.

Dont mind about handling, just want it to not make the car look silly.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Then I would go with 255/35/19. I think that would look the best with your front wheels and the speedo accuracy is VERY close within .5mph at 60 mph.

The 40s will have a slightly taller sidewall compared to the front tires being 35s and to me would look odd.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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Use the 255/35-19, it's a better match for the 245/35-19 you've selected for the front. If you can find a 265/35-19, thet would be about an ideal 'match' for your 245/35-19 (Pirelli makes both sizes). Did you buy 19x9 for all four wheels? No stagger?
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