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Old 03-02-2006, 07:36 AM
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I just wanna know for sure the story about wheel spacers

are they safe?
will there be a noticable difference in handling?
etc

i searched but came up short and i just want to be sure

thanks in advance
Old 03-02-2006, 10:39 AM
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there are a few different types of spacers...
bolt on spacers w/ studs
pot metal spacers
spacers that are hub centric..

First off how much are you trying to space out your wheel?
Old 03-02-2006, 02:54 PM
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im looking at the enkeis rpf1s with 18/8.5 +30 and 18/9.5 +38 so i dunno how much farther id need to push them out 5 up front and 10 out back? i have no idea
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I would say 10mm spacer for front wheels and 15mm for the rears. That would give you ET20 and ET23, that would look nice I think. Just my opinion...anyone else have ideas?

For the 10mm front you may need longer studs, not sure. For the 15mm rear you would most definitely need longer studs or you can go with the spacer with studs.

Do the Enkei RPF1's come in offsets closer to what I am suggesting?

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Old 03-02-2006, 04:13 PM
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I've got a pair of hub centric 15mm spacers for $20 + shipping. I used nismo extended studs when I had them on the rear
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I'd go with the 9.5 +15 in the back, that's what I have and it works fine. If you want to get an idea, check out my thread with the powdercoated Enkei's. I have a couple of pics that show the offset, and I am probably going to go with a 5mm or 10mm spacer up front myself. Leaning towards the 5mm one though because you can reuse the stock studs.
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1nate i saw your thread but your running a smaller profile on the rear (not 40 but 35 right)

also with these offsets and sizes how much would i be able to lower it without having to fix camber issues....1 in max?
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Originally Posted by Tortuga
I would say 10mm spacer for front wheels and 15mm for the rears. That would give you ET20 and ET23, that would look nice I think. Just my opinion...anyone else have ideas?

For the 10mm front you may need longer studs, not sure. For the 15mm rear you would most definitely need longer studs or you can go with the spacer with studs.

Do the Enkei RPF1's come in offsets closer to what I am suggesting?
give me and idea of what that would look like...im new to this and its sorta hard to picture

in the 8.5 thats the only offset but in the 9.5 they make a 15 offset but ive been told it wont fit right without tire size adjustments
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Originally Posted by Juztin
I've got a pair of hub centric 15mm spacers for $20 + shipping. I used nismo extended studs when I had them on the rear
what did you use them with? I have the 18" performance/touring wheels and i am thinking of using some spacers in the rear since if i decide to drop the car the wheel would looked way too tucked in.

Got pics?
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I have a question regarding these spacers.

Who can I get in the Bay Area to install the 15mm H&R spacers I have for my Anniveresay rears?

I understand the principle of how the studs/bolts go on the hub but my problem is "removing the hub", to get to and remove the old bolts and putting in the new 60mm bolts.

After you take the 2 bolts out of the brake caliper, then set it aside, how do you get the hub off? Use some type of puller?


I'd like to just find somebody to do this for me if I can but I guess liabilty reasons most shops won't touch them.
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Spacers are about looks not performance. If you buy the proper wheels, there is no need for spacers. Moving the wheels out (towards the fenders)puts more stress on components such as wheels bearings.
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Just curious, no disrepect, but don't the stock wheels come with spacers? I thought they did, but now I'm thinking that I'm totally wrong. As far as looks, performance, and stress on components goes I'll take your word for it.
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Originally Posted by menacin
don't the stock wheels come with spacers? .
Nope.
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Does anyone know who makes 10mm hubcentric spacers? It seems H&R and Kics only offer 5mm, 15mm, 20mm and 25mm.
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chad we at autornd can do the work for you not a problem.
Also davidv if you have a 19x9 + 30 w/ a 10 mm spacer vs a 19x9 + 20 the stresses will all be the same.
also the lower the offset the less strain on the hub and the more strain on the actual spring.

If you are looking for enkei wheels
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172426
We are selling them at a great price.

Also in the proper offsets to not need spacers =)
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autornd, do you sell 10mm hubcentric spacers like the h&r's?
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if hnr makes hub centric 10mm's i can get it..
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The Project KICS spacers I got (20 and 25mm) are great. They have extended studs already in them, install in 5 mins per wheel, and are the same price as H&R (which I'm under the impression you need to disassemble the hub and install the longer studs... aka wayyy more work).

I got mine from Evasive Motorsports with hubcentric rings for all for roughly $253 SHIPPED or so.
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Originally Posted by Auto RnD
chad we at autornd can do the work for you not a problem.
Also davidv if you have a 19x9 + 30 w/ a 10 mm spacer vs a 19x9 + 20 the stresses will all be the same.
also the lower the offset the less strain on the hub and the more strain on the actual spring.

If you are looking for enkei wheels
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172426
We are selling them at a great price.

Also in the proper offsets to not need spacers =)

Thanks man.

I'm having the springs and alignment done today (Wednesday). I'm going to ask them if they want to make a few extra bucks and install the spacers too.

If they won't, I will probably give you a call. Is it possible you could do it this Friday afternoon or on Saturday? Reason being is I have a few days off this week and during any other week, it would be impossible for me to make it to Milpitas.

Can you PM me a price for the spacer install?

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by TheLastSpartan
im looking at the enkeis rpf1s with 18/8.5 +30 and 18/9.5 +38 so i dunno how much farther id need to push them out 5 up front and 10 out back? i have no idea
Are you sure you need spacers with these wheels? If the calipers clear the hub, just mount them as is.

Spacers will increase the car’s track. Leading to less body roll in a turn, which is good.

It will change the feeling of the steering. Combined with the castor and king pin angle, the wheels will “lift” the front end more when cornering. It’s effect is uncertain but would not be catastrophic I’m sure.

It will affect the scrub radius. I don’t know if the Z has negative or positive scrub, but I’m betting reducing the offset will increase it. This will give you more feed-back from the front end at the cost of increased steering wheel load (heavier). This will tax the power steering system more.

To give you an idea, I ran wheels with a 35mm offset on my Subaru (OEM offset is 55mm) on track days. So the cars track was increased by 40mm (it’s a lot). The steering was quicker to respond initially, with a crispier turn-in. On parking maneuvers though, the ackerman angle of the steering was off and the car would not turn very well (similar to a 4x4 truck on dry asphalt).

Spacers are not “bad”. They make things “different”.


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