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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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And still be able to align to factory specs?
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 350xfire
And still be able to align to factory specs?
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As a general rule .8"
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gsedan35
As a general rule .8"
That is for the front only, right?

The rear can be brought within factory specs a bit lower than that, am I wrong?

As a rule of thumb, do you have a guestimate of how much "out of spec" the front gets per fraction of inch bellow 0.8"?
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Keep in mind that when I say .8" as a general rule, it's comming from a history of looking at past post's on the subject where the owner's actually got the car aligned and posted actual alignment specs. That being said, the catch with the rear adjustment system is that as you dail out negitive camber, you also end up dialing out your toe in, so you only have so much range with the rear system.

Some guy's to prefer to just buy rear camber and toe kit and live with the front's out of spec by a certain amount. No doubt influenced by the usual high cost for front adjustable arms.

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Some guy's to prefer to just buy rear camber and toe kit and live with the front's out of spec by a certain amount. No doubt influenced by the usual high cost for front adjustable arms.
LoL, that's exactly the idea.

Just ordered the tokico D-spec with their linear springs. This kit would have been perfect if not for the rediculous drop... and maybe a bit stiffer springs. Guess you can't have everything. Hopefully the guys at tokico did their homework

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nano
LoL, that's exactly the idea.

Just ordered the tokico D-spec with their linear springs. This kit would have been perfect if not for the rediculous drop... and maybe a bit stiffer springs. Guess you can't have everything. Hopefully the guys at tokico did their homework
Yeah, sadly "a bit stiffer" linear lowering spring doesn't exist as you know. Which is why I did my front Koni coilover conversion. Ironically I have the same Tokico springs arriving monday to see if the Koni shocks in the front will be happier stepping down from 448lbs to 375lbs rates. I think I may run the front spring perch in the higher postion and run a spacer in the rear to limit the drop amount from the springs to .7" . I do have to say that I will actually welcome more camber in the front.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gsedan35
Yeah, sadly "a bit stiffer" linear lowering spring doesn't exist as you know. Which is why I did my front Koni coilover conversion. Ironically I have the same Tokico springs arriving monday to see if the Koni shocks in the front will be happier stepping down from 448lbs to 375lbs rates. I think I may run the front spring perch in the higher postion and run a spacer in the rear to limit the drop amount from the springs to .7" . I do have to say that I will actually welcome more camber in the front.
Let me know how things change with your setup. I am not an Hardcore track junkie, I run about 10-12 track days/year and the stickiest I use are RT615. The huge drop does lower the center of gravity significantly, hopefully it's not all bad. I thought so much about a proper street/track setup I have headaches! There are SO many variables and things to consider, it feels like a russian roulette, lol! Too low, too high, too stiff, not stiff enough, not linear, too progressive, not adjustbale, too hardcore, not hardcore enough, no feedback, bad feedback, not rebuildable, too expensive, etc..... etc.....

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so the tokico dspec shock spring combo is garbage? damn i wanted to buy em too =/
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Originally Posted by 350ztoronto
so the tokico dspec shock spring combo is garbage? damn i wanted to buy em too =/

NO no, he's only bringing up issues concerning how the setup drop's the Z out of oem camber specs and how he wishes the setup was slightly stiffer. He's not saying their garbage at all. I on the otherhand am talking about something totally different, running just the Tokico springs with my Koni shocks to see if I get improved shock behavior on certain road condition's.

I have driven in two car's that I help install D-specs on and vs oem they are a excellent product, I have no reason to not think that as a package the shock and spring setup won't be just as great.
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can you get your supesion set back to spec with an eibach prokit
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 350ztoronto
so the tokico dspec shock spring combo is garbage? damn i wanted to buy em too =/
garbage is a big word, lol.

You need to figure out what you want out of your setup. Do you want a track setup? a street setup? How much are you willing to spend? and how much compromises are you willing to make inbetween? I have read and researched about every single suspension system out there, and I came to the conclusion that for MY needs the tokico D-specs and springs was a great package(atleast on paper). it is not perfect, but that's what it is. I will post impressions after I get to beat it (street and track).

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can you get your supesion set back to spec with an eibach prokit
Pro Kit lowers the car 1" (some cases more I've read). I don't think it will go back in OEM specs, even though some claim they have been able to get very close.

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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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Dropped my Z about .75 inch with the Hotchkis and was never really able to get the alignment to exactly spec, it was close but no go. BEN
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