Are Volks the new norm? Is it time to move on?
08-09-2006, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tHisZ_bFAST
I agree that Work wheels are good quality and look good, however they are in no way the same strength as a Volk rim, and are overpriced because of their weaknesses.
Work wheels are casted and heavy. The rim sections are easily bent since they only use spun aluminum barrels, just like HRE, Iforged, Maya, Racing Hart, etc.
I'm not sure how much pressure is used to spin the barrel section, but it is no way close to the 10,000 tons of pressure that Rays uses on their forged rims. And to compare, BBS uses forging machines and they are about 7-8k tons of pressure to form their wheels.
Volk 2 piece wheels uses a forged barrel with a casted center disk. Why other companies use a cast outer and forged center, like HRE and Iforge, is beyond me. Especially when the outer rim is the next closest thing to impact the ground other than your tires. I'm not saying that Volks are bent proof, but would you rather take 100 impacts before bending or just 10.
You may choose to believe that Work Wheels are stronger....but the facts are that they are not.
Work wheels are casted and heavy. The rim sections are easily bent since they only use spun aluminum barrels, just like HRE, Iforged, Maya, Racing Hart, etc.
I'm not sure how much pressure is used to spin the barrel section, but it is no way close to the 10,000 tons of pressure that Rays uses on their forged rims. And to compare, BBS uses forging machines and they are about 7-8k tons of pressure to form their wheels.
Volk 2 piece wheels uses a forged barrel with a casted center disk. Why other companies use a cast outer and forged center, like HRE and Iforge, is beyond me. Especially when the outer rim is the next closest thing to impact the ground other than your tires. I'm not saying that Volks are bent proof, but would you rather take 100 impacts before bending or just 10.
You may choose to believe that Work Wheels are stronger....but the facts are that they are not.
We are talking simple styling needs.
While it is true that cast wheels tend to be heavier than their forged counterparts, you can't necessarly say that they will always be weaker. There is no way you can compare a Work wheel to a iForged piece of junk. Differant companies implement differant quality control methods and Work puts a great deal of quality behind their products. They are yet another wheel that is used quite often in racing series such as JGTC
08-09-2006, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tHisZ_bFAST
I agree that Work wheels are good quality and look good, however they are in no way the same strength as a Volk rim, and are overpriced because of their weaknesses.
Work wheels are casted and heavy. The rim sections are easily bent since they only use spun aluminum barrels, just like HRE, Iforged, Maya, Racing Hart, etc.
I'm not sure how much pressure is used to spin the barrel section, but it is no way close to the 10,000 tons of pressure that Rays uses on their forged rims. And to compare, BBS uses forging machines and they are about 7-8k tons of pressure to form their wheels.
Volk 2 piece wheels uses a forged barrel with a casted center disk. Why other companies use a cast outer and forged center, like HRE and Iforge, is beyond me. Especially when the outer rim is the next closest thing to impact the ground other than your tires. I'm not saying that Volks are bent proof, but would you rather take 100 impacts before bending or just 10.
You may choose to believe that Work Wheels are stronger....but the facts are that they are not.
Work wheels are casted and heavy. The rim sections are easily bent since they only use spun aluminum barrels, just like HRE, Iforged, Maya, Racing Hart, etc.
I'm not sure how much pressure is used to spin the barrel section, but it is no way close to the 10,000 tons of pressure that Rays uses on their forged rims. And to compare, BBS uses forging machines and they are about 7-8k tons of pressure to form their wheels.
Volk 2 piece wheels uses a forged barrel with a casted center disk. Why other companies use a cast outer and forged center, like HRE and Iforge, is beyond me. Especially when the outer rim is the next closest thing to impact the ground other than your tires. I'm not saying that Volks are bent proof, but would you rather take 100 impacts before bending or just 10.
You may choose to believe that Work Wheels are stronger....but the facts are that they are not.
08-09-2006, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by UrbanTacticZ
Another great post. However, most of the people on these boards will NEVER see the strength that a forged wheel will hod up to.
08-09-2006, 08:25 AM
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If you want to ask Rick & Dave at Status on how strong a Volk TE37 is.. I was on the 110 freeway from Downtown LA to his shop and hit a nail, drove it all the way to Status with only 5psi on pressure and Status fix the tires and rebalance the wheel and came out no bent or crack.. use the same weight it was on the wheel before...
I had a set of Work 03 15" with RA1 tires on my EG6 after one track event at Sebring Raceway in FLA.. Both my front wheel was bent and passenger side had a crack.. after that I will never use any Work wheel only gong to track with Forged Rays wheel..
not sure if you guys remember a few months back someone posted a Work EMotion CR Kai, he had a crack on the spoke..
I had a set of Work 03 15" with RA1 tires on my EG6 after one track event at Sebring Raceway in FLA.. Both my front wheel was bent and passenger side had a crack.. after that I will never use any Work wheel only gong to track with Forged Rays wheel..
not sure if you guys remember a few months back someone posted a Work EMotion CR Kai, he had a crack on the spoke..
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Originally Posted by Volk350Z
I had a set of Work 03 15" with RA1 tires on my EG6 after one track event at Sebring Raceway in FLA.. Both my front wheel was bent and passenger side had a crack.. after that I will never use any Work wheel only gong to track with Forged Rays wheel..
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Originally Posted by Zexy
Work 03 isn't a forged wheel!!! Either way Work and Rays wheels quality are par and par.
yeah but what work wheels are forged.. remember this is back in my RZ days lol..
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Last post in here........and for the record. Yes, most Japan wheel companies are very good quality (Work, Weds, Racing Hart, AME). However, most are not as strong and are more expensive which, to me, doesn't equal to the value of the money I will be spending.
Cast wheels will always be inferior to a forged rim. It is true that you can make a strong cast wheel but more material is need to reinforced the outer rim and spokes, which in turn makes it heavier.
Work uses the same type of outer rim manufacturing as iForged. Casted, Spun aluminum. The finishing touches might be better, but the construction is still the same.
And I have yet to see Work wheels used abundantly in JGTC. Especially when approx. 50% of the teams use Rays, approx. 25% uses Enkei, and the rest are divided from American Racing, Work (2 teams), and BBS.
Originally Posted by UrbanTacticZ
While it is true that cast wheels tend to be heavier than their forged counterparts, you can't necessarly say that they will always be weaker. There is no way you can compare a Work wheel to a iForged piece of junk. They are yet another wheel that is used quite often in racing series such as JGTC
Work uses the same type of outer rim manufacturing as iForged. Casted, Spun aluminum. The finishing touches might be better, but the construction is still the same.
And I have yet to see Work wheels used abundantly in JGTC. Especially when approx. 50% of the teams use Rays, approx. 25% uses Enkei, and the rest are divided from American Racing, Work (2 teams), and BBS.
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damn people are quick to hate
redsquare's s14 is dope, flush fitment
to the original poster, weds kranze borphes are dope as hell
we used to be able to get those in, but hard to get now
volks will never get played out
i agree though, that there are a lot of volks floating around, especially in the 350z world, but they will never die
te37 for life
redsquare's s14 is dope, flush fitment
to the original poster, weds kranze borphes are dope as hell
we used to be able to get those in, but hard to get now
volks will never get played out
i agree though, that there are a lot of volks floating around, especially in the 350z world, but they will never die
te37 for life
08-09-2006, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by A Spec Products
damn people are quick to hate
redsquare's s14 is dope, flush fitment
to the original poster, weds kranze borphes are dope as hell
we used to be able to get those in, but hard to get now
volks will never get played out
i agree though, that there are a lot of volks floating around, especially in the 350z world, but they will never die
te37 for life
redsquare's s14 is dope, flush fitment
to the original poster, weds kranze borphes are dope as hell
we used to be able to get those in, but hard to get now
volks will never get played out
i agree though, that there are a lot of volks floating around, especially in the 350z world, but they will never die
te37 for life
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08-09-2006, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy@Performance
Played out or not, you cant deny that VOLK wheels are hot on 350Z's.....
Even on BMW's.....
Even on BMW's.....
You won't catch me saying that they don't look hot, but I still would like to see people buy some differant types of wheels
I'm tired of selling Volks all day long, I swear I have the entire price list almost memorized haha
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Originally Posted by UrbanTacticZ
Holler if you guys ever need a source over there for Weds, I'm hooked up with them quite closely
We still have our "source" but eh we just got fed up with their production times, and without an authorized importer, it was just too hit or miss for our comfort level. Playing russian roulette with customer's wheels, no thanks
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Volk played out? If it is, who cares? Here in Hawaii, it's a pretty rare sight. I seen maybe like 5 cars on the streets that run Volk.
Granted, Volk is the first choice, but the best 2nd choice I think is Enkei. Anyway, ENKEI gets no respect. People mistake their JDM racing line to the crap the US division puts out all over magazine advertisements. 2nd to Rays wheels is Enkei when it comes down to the #1 racing series in Japan, SuperGT (formerly JGTC) and what percentage of teams use their wheels. Enkei also supplies wheels to the Mercedes/McLaren team in F1. This speaks volumes for their racing pedigree. Granted, most of their consumer wheels are cast, but it's still strong enough for racing purposes. Until a scientific test is done to test rigidity, my only criteria for choosing a wheel is if Japanese race teams/garages use them.
What alot of people don't know also is that Enkei makes ADVAN wheels using M.A.T. or Hollow Core technology. C-West almost exclusively uses ADVAN on their cars. Check out C-West. C-West's Super Taikyu car uses TCII's you can buy off the shelf (not mag versions). Same goes for Yashio Factory. HKS has also been using ADVAN wheels on their time attack and show cars. BTW, Enkei also manufactures AME wheels.
BTW, Work wheels are a great bargain. This post: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205216 in the classifieds by Z1 had the Work XD9s (18x9, 18x10) wheels for $1400 shipped. Similar sized TE37s go for way more. ADVAN wheels can also be a bargain. The Super Light hollow core TCII's are dirt cheap right now... which is why I wonder sometimes when people who can't afford Volk, choose other alternatives like Rota, Thruxton, Axis,... when great JDM wheels can be had for about the same $$$ only if they looked.
Granted, Volk is the first choice, but the best 2nd choice I think is Enkei. Anyway, ENKEI gets no respect. People mistake their JDM racing line to the crap the US division puts out all over magazine advertisements. 2nd to Rays wheels is Enkei when it comes down to the #1 racing series in Japan, SuperGT (formerly JGTC) and what percentage of teams use their wheels. Enkei also supplies wheels to the Mercedes/McLaren team in F1. This speaks volumes for their racing pedigree. Granted, most of their consumer wheels are cast, but it's still strong enough for racing purposes. Until a scientific test is done to test rigidity, my only criteria for choosing a wheel is if Japanese race teams/garages use them.
What alot of people don't know also is that Enkei makes ADVAN wheels using M.A.T. or Hollow Core technology. C-West almost exclusively uses ADVAN on their cars. Check out C-West. C-West's Super Taikyu car uses TCII's you can buy off the shelf (not mag versions). Same goes for Yashio Factory. HKS has also been using ADVAN wheels on their time attack and show cars. BTW, Enkei also manufactures AME wheels.
BTW, Work wheels are a great bargain. This post: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205216 in the classifieds by Z1 had the Work XD9s (18x9, 18x10) wheels for $1400 shipped. Similar sized TE37s go for way more. ADVAN wheels can also be a bargain. The Super Light hollow core TCII's are dirt cheap right now... which is why I wonder sometimes when people who can't afford Volk, choose other alternatives like Rota, Thruxton, Axis,... when great JDM wheels can be had for about the same $$$ only if they looked.
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Originally Posted by ctwentytwo
Volk played out? If it is, who cares? Here in Hawaii, it's a pretty rare sight. I seen maybe like 5 cars on the streets that run Volk.
Granted, Volk is the first choice, but the best 2nd choice I think is Enkei. Anyway, ENKEI gets no respect. 2nd to Rays wheels is Enkei when it comes down to the #1 racing series in Japan, SuperGT (formerly JGTC) and what percentage of teams use their wheels. Enkei also supplies wheels to the Mercedes/McLaren team in F1. This speaks volumes for their racing pedigree. Granted it's cast, but it's still strong enough for racing purposes. Until a scientific test is done to test rigidity, my only criteria for choosing a wheel is if Japanese race teams/garages use them.
What alot of people don't know also is that Enkei makes ADVAN wheels, using M.A.T. or Hollow Core technology. C-West almost exclusively uses ADVAN on their cars. Check out C-West, most of the cars are on ADVANS. C-West's Super Taikyu car uses TCII's you can buy off the shelf (not mag versions). Same goes for Yashio Factory. HKS has also been using ADVAN wheels on their time attack and show cars.
BTW, Work wheels are a great bargain. This post: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205216 in the classifieds by Z1 had the Work XD9s (18x9, 18x10) wheels for $1400 shipped. Similar sized TE37s go for way more. ADVAN wheels can also be a bargain. The Super Light hollow core TCII's are dirt cheap right now... which is why I wonder sometimes when people who can't afford Volk, choose other alternatives like Rota, Thruxton, Axis,... when great JDM wheels can be had for about the same $$$ only if they looked.
Granted, Volk is the first choice, but the best 2nd choice I think is Enkei. Anyway, ENKEI gets no respect. 2nd to Rays wheels is Enkei when it comes down to the #1 racing series in Japan, SuperGT (formerly JGTC) and what percentage of teams use their wheels. Enkei also supplies wheels to the Mercedes/McLaren team in F1. This speaks volumes for their racing pedigree. Granted it's cast, but it's still strong enough for racing purposes. Until a scientific test is done to test rigidity, my only criteria for choosing a wheel is if Japanese race teams/garages use them.
What alot of people don't know also is that Enkei makes ADVAN wheels, using M.A.T. or Hollow Core technology. C-West almost exclusively uses ADVAN on their cars. Check out C-West, most of the cars are on ADVANS. C-West's Super Taikyu car uses TCII's you can buy off the shelf (not mag versions). Same goes for Yashio Factory. HKS has also been using ADVAN wheels on their time attack and show cars.
BTW, Work wheels are a great bargain. This post: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205216 in the classifieds by Z1 had the Work XD9s (18x9, 18x10) wheels for $1400 shipped. Similar sized TE37s go for way more. ADVAN wheels can also be a bargain. The Super Light hollow core TCII's are dirt cheap right now... which is why I wonder sometimes when people who can't afford Volk, choose other alternatives like Rota, Thruxton, Axis,... when great JDM wheels can be had for about the same $$$ only if they looked.
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Originally Posted by A Spec Products
Yeah right on
We still have our "source" but eh we just got fed up with their production times, and without an authorized importer, it was just too hit or miss for our comfort level. Playing russian roulette with customer's wheels, no thanks
We still have our "source" but eh we just got fed up with their production times, and without an authorized importer, it was just too hit or miss for our comfort level. Playing russian roulette with customer's wheels, no thanks
