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Old 10-18-2006 | 12:52 PM
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hey guys im interested in work emotion cr kais, i might be buying from a vendor soon but i found something locally, they have (2) 18x9.5 +12 that are used that they could sell to me for dirt cheap and order me the 18x8.5 +20 for the front
this way i would save a ton of money $$

now i know 18x9.5 with a +12 offset will rub in the rear with 275's(searched it), but if i went with a lower profile like 255/35/18 or something, would that work? cause i know the cr kai really stretches the tire correct?
i also have coilovers so i could adjust it if it rubbed, but the question is, is there even a chance that it wont rub
please let me know, or i will order from the vendor who has given me a decent deal aswell

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my only question is why you would think that one rim stretches a tire more than another? there was a guy with the +12 all around. you might need to roll the fender, but I'd do it.

also, you can run a 18x9.5 +22 (or is it a +20 offset for the emotions...)in the front as well : )
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ya i think +20 offset up front is fine from what i read
i was actually reffering to +12 for work emotions, sorry for not stating that, i think that offset for any wheel i guess would stretch a tire pretty good?
in any case...its just the rears im not sure about, though i heard itll look really aggressive
but damn i dont want it banging against the fender and having to cut and roll stuff
Old 10-18-2006 | 01:27 PM
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offset has nothing to do with stretching the tire. it is a combination of the wheel width (rim) and the tire width.

there is a wheel size range that a specific tire size is supposed to go on (ex. 255 can be a 8.5-9.5 with 9.5 being stretched, 8.5 being bulged...again, this is just an example and the sizes listed may not be accurate) offset is just how far from the center-line the wheel sticks out at the farthest point (again, very horrible explanation)

so to use a stretched tire on a 9.5 you would look for probably a 245 or 255... there are calculators to measure these things.
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i see, thanks a lot for replying so fast
hmm so i guess i would be safer with a 255? but would a stretched out 255 affect drivability a ton?
damn there seems to be too many little things to look out for
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hmm im also think if i raised the car to stock heigh or just a small drop if i could have a chance to run the 275 for the rears
cause its probably the drop that causes it to rub so bad
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yeah, stock height I couldn't see a problem running that offset in a lower profile (35 or so) from there you can test out a drop, btu I have no idea how to accurately measure that.....
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ya i will ask my friend to mount me some 275s and test it out
thanks a lot for helping me man
any other inputs would be cool,
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a 9.5 wide with +12 offset in the rear should be fine with rolled fenders and a wide/non stretched tire(275).. the front is another story. Get a +22 for the front.
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Originally Posted by Zexy
a 9.5 wide with +12 offset in the rear should be fine with rolled fenders and a wide/non stretched tire(275).. the front is another story. Get a +22 for the front.

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I have:
wheels: Work CR Cai 18X9.5 +20mm
tires: Front 245/35/18, Rear 275/35/18 BFG KDW's

you might not even need to roll the rears...I still have some room back there to come out a little. also, if you keep it with enough negative camber, it doesn't rub on the fender...

I can try to take some measurements later today if you want...

-Peter
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Originally Posted by first350
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I have:
wheels: Work CR Cai 18X9.5 +20mm
tires: Front 245/35/18, Rear 275/35/18 BFG KDW's

you might not even need to roll the rears...I still have some room back there to come out a little. also, if you keep it with enough negative camber, it doesn't rub on the fender...

I can try to take some measurements later today if you want...

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that would be nice
ur fender is not rolled either correct
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it will be totally tire dependant

I've had 275/40/18 out back that never even hinted at rubbing (T1S) and I've had tires that rubbed the second I hit the smallest bump or dip (S03). The advertised tire size has little to do with it...it's the physical dimension of the tire that determines rubbing vs not rubbing. You can research this info on the various manufacturers websites
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Originally Posted by Azn_Empurio
that would be nice
ur fender is not rolled either correct
my fenders are un-touched
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
it will be totally tire dependant

I've had 275/40/18 out back that never even hinted at rubbing (T1S) and I've had tires that rubbed the second I hit the smallest bump or dip (S03). The advertised tire size has little to do with it...it's the physical dimension of the tire that determines rubbing vs not rubbing. You can research this info on the various manufacturers websites
but this was with +20 offset though right?
so +12 would be even more difficult i think
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Originally Posted by first350
my fenders are un-touched
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hmm damn
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correct mine has always been +20 offset. Ntice I am running a 40 series tire, since its what NISMO had recommended for the 18's where first350 is running a 35 series. The 35 series will make the car sit that much lower to the ground as well as possibly not give you as much tire width. This is why I said it is 100% tire dependant - no one can tell you "this will fit without rubbing, and this won't unless they know you're exact rideheight, the exact tire and your exact alignment specs.

In other words, if you run a 275/40 on a +12 wheel and the car is lowered, and you run the nominal recommended camber Nissan suggests, I would count on it rubbing and count on having to roll the rear fenders to eliminate the rubbing - if it does not rub, you're in the clear and you're good to go, but at least you'll be prepared and not surprised. I can only speak of what happened on my car. T1S, no rubbing, S03, rubbed like crazy - both 275/40/18, rideheight unchaged. I tried to dial it out with camber - no amount of camber helped, it rubbed that badly. So, I rolled the fenders, and viola, no more rubbing and I'm a happy camper.
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The 255/35/18 will fit in the rear with stock fenders, I know that for a fact. 265/35/18 might fit but I haven't tested it out yet. I wouldn't go wider than 265/35/18 on a 9.5 in the rear unless you like that fat sidewall look which I think looks horrible. I would get the 18x9.5 +12 in the front and run a 255/35/18 also.
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yea my friend who is gonna hook me up with the works has the wheels on 255's...i guess i could try it out today and see for sure if it rubs or not
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update:
so i ordered +20 all around with 8.5F and 9.5R
im going to be using FALKEN FK-452 running 235/40/18 and 265/35/18
this sound alright to the cr kai gurus? o.o
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I think 265/35/18 in the rear is going to be too thin, 265/40/18 would be the correct tire size I believe to keep close to the stock tire diameter, especially if you are stretching the tire in the rear


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