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Old 03-22-2007, 06:53 PM
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Yet..another +17/+18 Volk GT-S. But you gotta have to see it in person really..


Old 03-22-2007, 06:53 PM
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ya but when u stretch a tire, its performance goes 2 hell......
Up to a point, a stretched tire will out perform a non-stretched tire. I recently have compared a Kumho MX 255/275 on a 9" wheel versus a 265/265 Falken RT615 on a 10.5" wheel. Not only did I loose the turning response in the front end when I went to the MX, but on initial turn-in the car feels very loose and floaty all around as if the tires will not hold through the turn.

Out of all of my various wheel/tire setups (going on my 6th different combo), the stretched tire looks and performs much better!
Old 03-22-2007, 07:00 PM
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My favorite looking setup to date:











19x9.5 +11 - 235/35/19
19x10.5 +11 - 265/30/19
Old 03-22-2007, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by drumma022
Up to a point, a stretched tire will out perform a non-stretched tire. I recently have compared a Kumho MX 255/275 on a 9" wheel versus a 265/265 Falken RT615 on a 10.5" wheel. Not only did I loose the turning response in the front end when I went to the MX, but on initial turn-in the car feels very loose and floaty all around as if the tires will not hold through the turn.

Out of all of my various wheel/tire setups (going on my 6th different combo), the stretched tire looks and performs much better!
You ever thought that maybe the Falken's are just a better tire than the Kumhos and it had nothing to do with sizing?????
Old 03-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by drumma022
Up to a point, a stretched tire will out perform a non-stretched tire. I recently have compared a Kumho MX 255/275 on a 9" wheel versus a 265/265 Falken RT615 on a 10.5" wheel. Not only did I loose the turning response in the front end when I went to the MX, but on initial turn-in the car feels very loose and floaty all around as if the tires will not hold through the turn.

Out of all of my various wheel/tire setups (going on my 6th different combo), the stretched tire looks and performs much better!
how can u make such an assumption with different brand and different size tires? im not sure i understand what you were saying about the tire and wheel combo's, but if it were the case that stretched tires perform better, why would they be out of spec according to the tire manufacturers? you can achieve the same effect of stretching a tire by just dropping down a series
Old 03-22-2007, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kwame@z1
You ever thought that maybe the Falken's are just a better tire than the Kumhos and it had nothing to do with sizing?????
+1 RICE FTL!!!
Old 03-22-2007, 08:11 PM
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Wow, you folks are far more close minded than I had imagined... and exactly the reason that this forum (and 350 owners) have a bad reputation in other car forums. I'm done
Old 03-22-2007, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
Watch what happens when you lose the bead on the tire.
honestly, how many times have you seen a bead separate from a tire due to stretching and NOT underinflation or running off the road/track?
Originally Posted by cubu
want a cookie? that stuff is RICE imho, you lose performance, safety, and function to make your car look stupid, RICE
on what basis can you say you lose performance? please, inform us.
Old 03-22-2007, 08:24 PM
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to the OP:
my setup with 19x9+15 f 19x10 +0 r

Old 03-22-2007, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
honestly, how many times have you seen a bead separate from a tire due to stretching and NOT underinflation or running off the road/track?

on what basis can you say you lose performance? please, inform us.
well thin *** tire = less traction, losing performance no? putting a wider rim than needed for said tire width = unnecessary weight, resulting in slower acceleration and braking, losing performance no?

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Old 03-22-2007, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cubu
well thin *** tire = less traction, losing performance no? putting a wider rim than needed for said tire width = unnecessary weight, resulting in slower acceleration and braking, losing performance no?
not neccessarily.

what is classified as a thin *** tire? it strictly depends on the car, a 2000lb car will not need a 245 series tire, therefor it will be adding unecessary weight as well. a wider rim will help as well with the flex of the sidewall, thus making it more "taught/stretched" and will respond much faster to imputs and respond quicker to smaller inputs.

then again, also, a bigger(taller) rim will be a disadvantage on the track as well. it will move the weith to the otside of the rim, thus causing more counteracting centripital force on the acceleration and braking as well.

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Old 03-22-2007, 08:47 PM
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I have to give thanks to dirtyZ for this picture of my 350ZR

Old 03-22-2007, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
not neccessarily.

what is classified as a thin *** tire? it strictly depends on the car, a 2000lb car will not need a 245 series tire, therefor it will be adding unecessary weight as well. a wider rim will help as well with the flex of the sidewall, thus making it more "taught/stretched" and will respond much faster to imputs and respond quicker to smaller inputs.
well our car doesn't weigh 2000lb does it? i don't think you hear people complain about too traction... and like i posted in my earlier post you can simply reduce sidewall flex by simply getting say 35 series rather than 40 etc
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who said anything about a taller rim?
Old 03-22-2007, 08:55 PM
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all the op asked for was some pics of different offsets, i don't see why people always have to chime in with their worthless opinions...
Old 03-22-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cubu
well our car doesn't weigh 2000lb does it? i don't think you hear people complain about too traction... and like i posted in my earlier post you can simply reduce sidewall flex by simply getting say 35 series rather than 40 etc
we werent refering to the z now, you were discussing the 175/50's i beilive from the previous posts.

Originally Posted by cubu
who said anything about a taller rim?
you were talking about performance as well. i simply am saying that taller rims will have less performance (albeit, after a certain size on a certain car )
Old 03-23-2007, 05:46 AM
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very sick offsets, i definitely need spacers
Old 03-23-2007, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by drumma022
Up to a point, a stretched tire will out perform a non-stretched tire. I recently have compared a Kumho MX 255/275 on a 9" wheel versus a 265/265 Falken RT615 on a 10.5" wheel. Not only did I loose the turning response in the front end when I went to the MX, but on initial turn-in the car feels very loose and floaty all around as if the tires will not hold through the turn.

Out of all of my various wheel/tire setups (going on my 6th different combo), the stretched tire looks and performs much better!
Not really a valid comparison since you used two different brand tires and different width wheels. Gotta compare apples to apples.
Old 03-23-2007, 06:36 AM
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Old 03-23-2007, 07:51 AM
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So clean, so simple. Classic.


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