Project Kic Spacer Issues.
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Project Kic Spacer Issues.
I will first start off by saying the product seems to be fabricated from high quality material. That being said it's NOT a simple bolt-on as advertised. I bought two pairs of 20mm (my offsets were a crappy 38mm in the front and 37 mm in the rear). So the spacers would put my offsets at 18/17. My fenders are rolled so there should be no rubbing on the rear tires.
Here's the main problem: The factory studs stick out too far past the 20mm spacers. They stick a good 5mm beyond the spacer. So when I mounted my wheels it didn't sit flush with the spacer. Instead of being flush up against my wheel only the ends of the 5 factory studs were flush.
So now instead of the spacers being 20mm they're acting as if they're alteast 25mm. Which puts my offset at 13/12, which is no bueno since I'm dropped over an inch in the back. Nevermind that the wheels stick out further then desired. My main issue is there's no way it can be remotely safe to have my wheels touching only the 5 factory studs instead of being flush with the surface area of the spacer.
I bought these because I didn't want to mess with the factory studs, but now it looks like I'm going to have to. The easiest way IMO to fix this is knock the factory studs out, put 5mm worth of washers between them and the other side of the rotor and call it a day.
Mind you if I had bought only 15mm spacers the problem would have been even worse. Now instead of 5mm of the factory studs protruding, I'd have 10mm protruding. I just wish the vendor would have given me a heads up with this issue.
Feel free to comment.
Here's the main problem: The factory studs stick out too far past the 20mm spacers. They stick a good 5mm beyond the spacer. So when I mounted my wheels it didn't sit flush with the spacer. Instead of being flush up against my wheel only the ends of the 5 factory studs were flush.
So now instead of the spacers being 20mm they're acting as if they're alteast 25mm. Which puts my offset at 13/12, which is no bueno since I'm dropped over an inch in the back. Nevermind that the wheels stick out further then desired. My main issue is there's no way it can be remotely safe to have my wheels touching only the 5 factory studs instead of being flush with the surface area of the spacer.
I bought these because I didn't want to mess with the factory studs, but now it looks like I'm going to have to. The easiest way IMO to fix this is knock the factory studs out, put 5mm worth of washers between them and the other side of the rotor and call it a day.
Mind you if I had bought only 15mm spacers the problem would have been even worse. Now instead of 5mm of the factory studs protruding, I'd have 10mm protruding. I just wish the vendor would have given me a heads up with this issue.
Feel free to comment.
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I had the exact same problem as you about 6 months ago. I contemplated different options, including cutting off 5mm from each stud. I ended up selling the KICs on the forum and bought some 20mm Ichiba spacers w/ longer studs. I think that is by far the safest thing to do. I had them installed at function:tuned, because I'm too pu$$y to do it myself. All it took was an hour of labor. Good times.
you may have some luck re-selling the KICs to someone who's looking to stay on stock wheels but wants to push them out. The 5mm extra is a non-factor w/ stock wheels.
you may have some luck re-selling the KICs to someone who's looking to stay on stock wheels but wants to push them out. The 5mm extra is a non-factor w/ stock wheels.
Last edited by bonusfrag; 05-15-2007 at 07:15 AM.
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Originally Posted by bonusfrag
I had the exact same problem as you about 6 months ago. I contemplated different options, including cutting off 5mm from each stud. I ended up selling the KICs on the forum and bought some 20mm Ichiba spacers w/ longer studs. I think that is by far the safest thing to do. I had them installed at function:tuned, because I'm too pu$$y to do it myself. All it took was an hour of labor. Good times.
you may have some luck re-selling the KICs to someone who's looking to stay on stock wheels but wants to push them out. The 5mm extra is a non-factor w/ stock wheels.
you may have some luck re-selling the KICs to someone who's looking to stay on stock wheels but wants to push them out. The 5mm extra is a non-factor w/ stock wheels.
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Might be your wheels, not the spacer....
I have the 15mm spacers and the stock studs did poke out a bit, however, the the backside of the wheel hub where the studs meet have "gaps" between the holes where the stock studs were able to fit. Not sure if I'm explaining that right but check the backside of your wheel hub. If you do not have the gap between the stud holes or the gap isn't wide enough then the spacer will not work with your wheels.
Wish I could take pictures for you so you see what I mean but my brother's Alt SE-R is in the shop so he's had my Z for the last few days....
I have the 15mm spacers and the stock studs did poke out a bit, however, the the backside of the wheel hub where the studs meet have "gaps" between the holes where the stock studs were able to fit. Not sure if I'm explaining that right but check the backside of your wheel hub. If you do not have the gap between the stud holes or the gap isn't wide enough then the spacer will not work with your wheels.
Wish I could take pictures for you so you see what I mean but my brother's Alt SE-R is in the shop so he's had my Z for the last few days....
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Originally Posted by RNL323
Might be your wheels, not the spacer....
I have the 15mm spacers and the stock studs did poke out a bit, however, the the backside of the wheel hub where the studs meet have "gaps" between the holes where the stock studs were able to fit. Not sure if I'm explaining that right but check the backside of your wheel hub. If you do not have the gap between the stud holes or the gap isn't wide enough then the spacer will not work with your wheels.
Wish I could take pictures for you so you see what I mean but my brother's Alt SE-R is in the shop so he's had my Z for the last few days....
I have the 15mm spacers and the stock studs did poke out a bit, however, the the backside of the wheel hub where the studs meet have "gaps" between the holes where the stock studs were able to fit. Not sure if I'm explaining that right but check the backside of your wheel hub. If you do not have the gap between the stud holes or the gap isn't wide enough then the spacer will not work with your wheels.
Wish I could take pictures for you so you see what I mean but my brother's Alt SE-R is in the shop so he's had my Z for the last few days....
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Originally Posted by jtabraham
Don't use spacers to gain the extra 5mm of clearance. Take the factory studs to a local machine shop and have them cut 5 or 6 mm off of the studs. Shouldn't cost much to do, and would be an easy job for any shop.
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i def would have the studs cut my buddy with an sti has the same issue and tried using washers between the spacer and rotors...he ended up having all kinds of vibration at speed.
you can always replace the cut studs with factory ones down the road if you ever need to
you can always replace the cut studs with factory ones down the road if you ever need to
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Originally Posted by umzzz
i def would have the studs cut my buddy with an sti has the same issue and tried using washers between the spacer and rotors...he ended up having all kinds of vibration at speed.
you can always replace the cut studs with factory ones down the road if you ever need to
you can always replace the cut studs with factory ones down the road if you ever need to
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Originally Posted by tonywenzel
The safest solution is to buy hubcentric spacers that don't have studs on them and replace the factory studs with extended studs.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Take it to Dave, have him cut it, problem solved...
BTW ... knock on wood. No rubbing. It's cutting it close though.
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I have Kics spacers, and checked for space on the back of my rims due to this:
from their sale thread: https://my350z.com/forum/newreply.ph...eply&p=2855935
I would add that I had to retorque the rims after driving on them for a couple weeks -- they shook loose (even with hubcentric rings).
Originally Posted by Auto RnD
Quality would be just as good. Difference is that H&R typically does not produce studded spacers in less than 25mm. That's how the KICS can be a huge advantage. You don't have to press studs and so forth as long as your wheels have a cavity to soak up the extra lugstud threads. Which the RAy's ones do.
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I would add that I had to retorque the rims after driving on them for a couple weeks -- they shook loose (even with hubcentric rings).