zosomoso

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I recently purchased some new wheels, springs, and tires. After waiting a few weeks, i finally took my car to a shop on Thursday to get everything installed as well as an alignment and to get the fenders rolled.

My only issue now is that i'm getting wheel rub from the rear tires. Now the mechanic at the shop said that he can't roll my fenders any further or else i'd risk cracking the fenders. He recommended adjusting more negative camber as opposed to cutting the fenders.

Now my question is with the specs i have:

• Rear camber Left:-1.96 Right:-1.98

And with the parts:

• Lowered on Tanabe GF210s: about an 1.25in drop in the rear
• Toyo T1r's rears are 285/35/19
• Volks rears are 10.5 +23

Should i go ahead and exceed the factory spec of -2.0 degrees (which is what i have been told) camber in the rear or should i cut the fenders? and if i decided to cut the fenders, around how much would a decent body shop charge me?

And by the way, does this sound right, i mean should i be getting wheel rub with this alignment considering that i have seen much more aggressive offsets on this forum?

thanks in advance for any help.

EDIT:

So today i went back to the shop and found out that the noise in which i thought was wheel rub was actually coming from the driveline. In order to demonstrate that the noise was not coming from the tires the mechanic took me to an open parking lot and let me run a tight circle clockwise and counterclockwise and through an embankment, and even as the tires began to break traction there was no rub. But there still is this noise, a type of grinding noise that i now realize is coming from the tranny and differentials. It's a noise that i have been experiencing for the past 3 months but it has progressively gotten worse especially after the car got lowered. i used to only hear this grinding noise when the temperature outside rose above 90 degrees but now its basically there whenever the car is under load.

is this grinding noise coming from the driveline normal? I have a base model and it is only a year and 2 months old. Anyways, im going to take my car to nissan and have them take a look at it.

thanks again for any input.

zosomoso

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here are some pictures to help illustrate:

TuscaniJon

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get them rolled not cut....

Tomci08

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+1, had to get mine rolled after installing my new rear's also.

AlvinHuyN

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I don't get it...How can you rub with that setup (assuming you have rolled your fenders)

Example: I'm not rubbing with the more aggressive setup below

I'm dropped with Tokico D-Spec Full Susp (-1.25")
Work Meister S1 19x11 (rear +29) with Toyo T1R 285/35/19
My setup is like your set up (.5" wider = 12.7mm divided by two [ because the wheels are wider evenly on both sides making my offset similar - if not more aggressive than your 19x10.5 +23)
We use the same tire brand and size so why would you rub when I don't.

My guess is that your fenders aren't rolled fully, can you take pics of the rolled fenders? Honeslt you should have plenty of clearance. I have about 17-20mm left so I'm getting a more aggressive offset coming in soon 19x11 +17 w/ 285

Tomci08

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just as the post above states, you probably dont have the fenders rolled enough. Come to think of it im dropped on eibachs with tokico shocks and nismo 10.5 rears with a offset of +15 and have no rubbing issues. Just have the shop roll them more and you should be good to go.

zosomoso

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Yea i dont understand why i'm getting wheel rub in the first place. And the shop mechanic was really nervous about rolling the fenders any further, he said he rolled them about 45 degrees inward. I'll take some pics this afternoon of the inside of the fender.

thanks again guys and btw Alvinhuyn and Tomci, what camber are you guys running in the rear? is it passed -2.0 degrees?

Z1 Performance

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how? simple

cars are like fingerprints.....

I rubbed horribly with a 9.5 width, +20 on 275/40/18......no amount of camber fixed it

zosomoso

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well doesn't it also depend on what kind of tire you are using? i was just under the impression that different brand tires have slightly different side walls characteristics. Now i don't know if this is true but from what i've observed, some side walls are more curved and some are more angular even if the tire sizes are the same. I dunno though correct me if i'm wrong.

Z1 Performance

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absolutely - and not all springs lower everyones car the same amount and not everyones factory camber/toe settings are the same pre springs and as such, won't be the same post springs

z-u-later

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45 degrees is not fully rolled. The inner side of the fender should be straight up, parallel to the outside part of the fender, and almost touching each other. If that mechanic is not using a fender roller, you're asking for trouble. Looks like they've never rolled a fender before.

redlude97

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What he said, 45 degress isn't even a half roll, that barely gave you anymore clearance. Go get a real fender roll, plenty of people have gone farther without damaging the paint

Alberto

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+1 I roll fenders and thats a half a$$ job. Ive done many set-ups with more aggressive offsets and wider tires with BETTER (more +) camber with no rubbing issues. I run 285/35/19 lowered more than you with -1 camber and dont come close to rubbing!