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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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I'm about to close on my purchase of a black '06 Enthusiast in a couple days. I am thinking about some easy subtle mods right off the bat once I finally get the car. I have been researching wheel spacers and I just want to know if anyone has had any issues with 25mm rear wheel spacers. Have they caused any rubbing over bumps with say 18" wheels (also on my list for initial mods)? Also in my research I've noticed (on eBay especially) there is a set of I believe generic spacers (width: 15-25mm) for $65 a set. Then of course with different brands prices vary. How much of a difference is there between brands and how they are manufactured. If they widen my stance and don't allow my wheels to fall off I'll be good! Hah! Please let me know of any personal experiences with them and any suggestions if possible and what I need to look for in particular. In the meantime I will continue my research. Thank you! Take it easy.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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I have 25mm on the rear, and I'm lowered. No problems at all. Don't go cheap when you buy them. Get some good ones with built in studs.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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I have 25mm on the rear, and I'm lowered. No problems at all. Don't go cheap when you buy them. Get some good ones with built in studs.
I know this is a newbie comment but, I am! When you say built in studs you are meaning a spacer with 5 holes for the existing threads to go through and bolt down, and then 5 more threads for the wheel to attach to correct?

Much like this?

<img src="http://www.mynismo.com/images_products/L_5708.jpg">
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Just like the ones above , but make sure they are hub centric . The ones above are not.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Just like the ones above , but make sure they are hub centric . The ones above are not.
Cool thanks, I appreciate the help!
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Ichiban (japanese for: "the best")...are hub centric and work perfectly!!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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the project kics spacers (pic that you posted) come with hubcentric rings also. i'm running 20mm/25mm f/r with my stock '03 track wheels and hotchkis springs (~.8 drop). looks much better than when they were super tucked in.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hndumafia
the project kics spacers (pic that you posted) come with hubcentric rings also. i'm running 20mm/25mm f/r with my stock '03 track wheels and hotchkis springs (~.8 drop). looks much better than when they were super tucked in.

Cool, again thanks. Does anyone have any pictures readily available that they can post of their wheels with spacers applied? I'm going to continue to search around for pictures myself but sometimes it's just easier to ask. Thanks for the help as always guys! And oh yeah, I just made it official on my purchase of the '06 MB 6-speed Enthusiast!!! Sooooo excited!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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I actually bought a pair of the $65 spacers on ebay. I think they are the same ones you are talking about. They are hubcentric if you were wandering about that. I have had them for a few weeks and have no problems with them. Although, I read somewhere that having spacers larger than 15mm can put too much stress on the studs. Can anyone give some insight on this?
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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I was wondering the same thing but cannot find info anywhere. Does the increased leverage created by the spacers decrease bushing life? Any longterm camber arm/knuckle fatigue? I'd hate to void my precious suspension warranty for the sake of flush rim fitment.

Can somebody help us?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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^+1

I'm thinking about doing this too... but like the above poster asked, does this create undue wear or is it a generally unsafe setup? This might be a stupid question, but I've never run a wheel spacer before so I don't know.

BTW I'm looking at purchasing +20(f) and +25(r) spacers with the optional hubcentric rings (for stock 07 wheels).
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ReelBigAndy
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I was wondering the same thing but cannot find info anywhere. Does the increased leverage created by the spacers decrease bushing life? Any longterm camber arm/knuckle fatigue? I'd hate to void my precious suspension warranty for the sake of flush rim fitment.

Can somebody help us?

Same here, I've searched around but haven't come up with much info on the downsides of running spacers, or at least 20mm+ spacers. Any insight would be awesome since I'm planning to get some over the summer.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Im lowered 1" F/1.25"R with wheel spacers=+20mm front/ +25mm rear. The Z feels more stable. Im planning on dropping with Stance coilovers later this year, so, we'll see how that goes.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by highlysarcastic
^+1

I'm thinking about doing this too... but like the above poster asked, does this create undue wear or is it a generally unsafe setup? This might be a stupid question, but I've never run a wheel spacer before so I don't know.

BTW I'm looking at purchasing +20(f) and +25(r) spacers with the optional hubcentric rings (for stock 07 wheels).
I just droped my 07 with the hotchkis kit and man is there serious "tucked in" look to my car now. I wanna go 20/25 as well to give it the flush look, and am wondering if u ended up doing it? How its been overall if so?

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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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That's kind of funny trodis... I've been thinking about the TVS 1 but haven't done it yet... how do you like it as compared to the stock setup?

And no, I haven't gotten the spacers yet, so I can't comment, sorry.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Subscribing... Dropping powder cotaing and widening stance soon and need info. My predictive setup is gonig to be (newly purchased GF210's, 20mm (F) and 25mm (R) ichiban spacers with built in studs and hubcentric (of course) and want to also make sure this is a safe setup.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by highlysarcastic
That's kind of funny trodis... I've been thinking about the TVS 1 but haven't done it yet... how do you like it as compared to the stock setup?

And no, I haven't gotten the spacers yet, so I can't comment, sorry.
I love it, no complains on the handling! Its amazing the feel over stock, I would definately recommend it. I am going to eventually get a front camber kit because of neg camber, it not much, but enough for me to try and protect my wheels for as long as I can (as u may know they arnt cheap!). Now that its dropped I want some spacers to fill the gap. The mod bug has bitten me and there is no turning back!!
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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running wheel spacers shouldn't be any worse for your wheel studs than running wheels with more aggressive offsets. and based on how many people run aggressive offsets without problems, you can be pretty certain that you won't run into many problems with wheel spacers.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hndumafia
running wheel spacers shouldn't be any worse for your wheel studs than running wheels with more aggressive offsets. and based on how many people run aggressive offsets without problems, you can be pretty certain that you won't run into many problems with wheel spacers.
Those are my thoughts as well. It's all a matter of how much weight is hung on how long of a moment arm. Whether you have a +45mm offset wheel with a 20mm spacer, or a +25mm offset wheel, the net effect should be the same. (Assuming the wheels have equal weights, geometries, blah blah)
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hndumafia
running wheel spacers shouldn't be any worse for your wheel studs than running wheels with more aggressive offsets. and based on how many people run aggressive offsets without problems, you can be pretty certain that you won't run into many problems with wheel spacers.
+1 i can buy this all day...
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