Rays vs. Muteki Lugnuts (pics & weights)
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I've been running Ray's short duraluminum lugnuts for quite awhile now. Just got in a brand new set of Muteki neo-chro open ended lugnuts.
The front disk of most wheels for Z's/G's are larger (thicker) than the rear, to accommodate BBK's. This causes equal length lugnuts to be flush or sunken-in on front wheels, and stick out alot on rear wheels. Look at the pics, and you'll see what I mean.
To even it out, I'm running a mixed setup of SR48 and SR35 lugnuts. The longer 48mm lugs are up front, and the shorter 35mm lugs are out back.
Volk short (front)
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Volk short (rear)
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Muteki SR 48 (front)
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Muteki SR 35 (rear)
The front disk of most wheels for Z's/G's are larger (thicker) than the rear, to accommodate BBK's. This causes equal length lugnuts to be flush or sunken-in on front wheels, and stick out alot on rear wheels. Look at the pics, and you'll see what I mean.
To even it out, I'm running a mixed setup of SR48 and SR35 lugnuts. The longer 48mm lugs are up front, and the shorter 35mm lugs are out back.
Volk short (front)
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Volk short (rear)
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Muteki SR 48 (front)
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Muteki SR 35 (rear)
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Threw the lugs on a postal scale, so it should be fairly accurate.
Ray's short is around 0.8 oz.
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Muteki SR35 is around 1.4 oz.
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Muteki SR48 is around 1.9 oz.
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Gorilla chrome tuner is around 1.3 oz.
Ray's short is around 0.8 oz.
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Muteki SR35 is around 1.4 oz.
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Muteki SR48 is around 1.9 oz.
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Gorilla chrome tuner is around 1.3 oz.
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so what is the general consensus? are the rays nuts worth the
extra money-are they better quality? will the threads last longer and
hold up to frequent removal?
i am curious because i have been looking at muteki and rays nuts
lately
extra money-are they better quality? will the threads last longer and
hold up to frequent removal?
i am curious because i have been looking at muteki and rays nuts
lately
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Originally Posted by xhooniex83
thanks for sharin info
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Originally Posted by Nexx
hrmm.. those muteki's look pretty good. ive been holding out for some project kics r40 in neo but no one on the planet has them in stock..
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Originally Posted by MUZZY
I just got my neo chroms and I love them, I think 2 full Ounces is worth the pure sex of these lugs
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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
I was swapping lugs anyways, so why not snap a couple pics? Took me < 15min. with an electric impact wrench.
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The best quality are mcgard spline lug nuts, hands down.
Originally Posted by 2fast4ya
so what is the general consensus? are the rays nuts worth the
extra money-are they better quality? will the threads last longer and
hold up to frequent removal?
i am curious because i have been looking at muteki and rays nuts
lately
extra money-are they better quality? will the threads last longer and
hold up to frequent removal?
i am curious because i have been looking at muteki and rays nuts
lately
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Originally Posted by synth19
The best quality are mcgard spline lug nuts, hands down.
inside threads that meet the studs?
i would like to replace my lug nuts because i bought a set of wheels i
use for track days and take them on and off at least once a month
and am worried about fatigue/reliability of the ones i have now
(cheap *** lugs that came with the wheels from edgeracing-look like
a dollar each style from napa)
my oem lugs are too big for my track day wheels and they are starting
to get worn too and may have to replace them soon as well