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Old 08-20-2008, 11:40 AM
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Default 285/35/19 require camber kit?

will these wider tires make the wheels slant inwards? / / \ \ im lowered on gf210's btw.
Old 08-20-2008, 11:44 AM
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the tires do not determine the amount of camber. required with your gf210's no, but your tires will wear a bit faster on the inside.
Old 08-20-2008, 11:50 AM
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thanks nexx oo hyoris hawt...
Old 08-21-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
the tires do not determine the amount of camber. required with your gf210's no, but your tires will wear a bit faster on the inside.
actually tire size most definitely affects alignment...that is what an alignment is, setting the relationship of the tire to the ground. Change any one item in the equation, and alignment can be affected. By how much? Only way to know is to measure before and after
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so would i need to adjust camber?
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you would need to measure the camber/toe before you install the new tires and after to know
Old 08-21-2008, 07:35 PM
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sounds like they're gonna charge me up the **** to do that. i have a moderate 1inch drop btw. only changing tires, nothing else.
Old 08-21-2008, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
actually tire size most definitely affects alignment...that is what an alignment is, setting the relationship of the tire to the ground. Change any one item in the equation, and alignment can be affected. By how much? Only way to know is to measure before and after
I may be wrong, but I thought alignment is measused by applying the machnine to your rims not your tires... atleast that what the dude was explaining to me when he was doing my alignment.

I'm dropped on hotchkis, and asked if there will be a difference between him doing the allignment on my stock rims/tires or my 285 rear volk set up... and he told me it has nothing to do with tire...

oh o.... I might have to be carefull with my wear if that's the truth...
Old 08-21-2008, 07:57 PM
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My alignment was out of wack with my hotchkis springs and 285/35/19...Let the springs settle and get it done.
Old 08-22-2008, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by alan86
sounds like they're gonna charge me up the **** to do that. i have a moderate 1inch drop btw. only changing tires, nothing else.
why don't you ask them in that case
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Originally Posted by whoopazz1
I may be wrong, but I thought alignment is measused by applying the machnine to your rims not your tires... atleast that what the dude was explaining to me when he was doing my alignment.

I'm dropped on hotchkis, and asked if there will be a difference between him doing the allignment on my stock rims/tires or my 285 rear volk set up... and he told me it has nothing to do with tire...

oh o.... I might have to be carefull with my wear if that's the truth...
If you're **** about performance, and things being set to a certain spec (I am...but it's different for everyone), then I'd find a new place to do your alignments in the future.

http://www.spcalignment.com/PROD_DIR...ndamentals.pdf
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Again, I am not saying that it WILL be different...I am saying that it CAN be different. When such a possibility exists, it pays to check. Maybe you'll get lucky and you won't have any issues. Or maybe you'll be back here posting 5k miles later that your 'new' rear tires that you spent money on are now shot, complaining that the tires must be crappy, etc. Why do things 2 x - once just to get it done and once just to get it right? Waste of time and money in the end.
Old 08-22-2008, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by whoopazz1
I may be wrong, but I thought alignment is measused by applying the machnine to your rims not your tires... atleast that what the dude was explaining to me when he was doing my alignment.

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Your not at all , offset, wheel width, wheel size,tire width and tire height have nothing to do with alignment.
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^ so the alignment is only affected by how aggressive your drop is correct?
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Your not at all , offset, wheel width, wheel size,tire width and tire height have nothing to do with alignment.
They can affect alignment by changing the effective loading on the springs which would change the effective static ride height which then affects the alignment. The extent this occurs is likely small of course, but to say it has NO affect is false. As any of the widebody guys if their super aggressive offset wheels affected their alignment, I guarantee it did
Old 08-23-2008, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
They can affect alignment by changing the effective loading on the springs which would change the effective static ride height which then affects the alignment. The extent this occurs is likely small of course, but to say it has NO affect is false. As any of the widebody guys if their super aggressive offset wheels affected their alignment, I guarantee it did
Its unsprung weight= no effect. Sprung weight would alter ride height (like your extra 50 pounds of fibreglass widebody) causing the suspension to sit at a lower stance. Weight reduction of sprung weight will also effect you alignment.
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^ so if you had a 50lb kit ur screwed??
Old 08-23-2008, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Its unsprung weight= no effect. Sprung weight would alter ride height (like your extra 50 pounds of fibreglass widebody) causing the suspension to sit at a lower stance. Weight reduction of sprung weight will also effect you alignment.
I'm not talking about the weight, by changing the offset/width/tire size, you change the effective application of torque onto the suspension arm which pivots around the subframe, and is balanced by the spring force. Take the case to the extreme in my illustration below and you'll understand how offset(using huge spacers) can possibly affect the ride height and alignment
Old 08-23-2008, 11:22 AM
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is the diagram on the bottom w/ spacers and a drop, or just spacers?
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Originally Posted by redlude97
I'm not talking about the weight, by changing the offset/width/tire size, you change the effective application of torque onto the suspension arm which pivots around the subframe, and is balanced by the spring force. Take the case to the extreme in my illustration below and you'll understand how offset(using huge spacers) can possibly affect the ride height and alignment
LOL , your so wrong and you done want to give up. I guess it could matter if you extended 12 inches, that will flex your bushings to a new level , and put such a strain on your bearing that they give extra play. but the inch to maybe 1.5 or 2 for the hella crazy flush people doesnt matter.

Also remember when you properly size your wheels your adding to both the inside and outside equally, thus negating the ever so slight added load on the outside.


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