rotating asymmetrical tires
03-15-2009, 02:46 AM
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^^ Hey mr. always sarcastic man, if you want to continue relaying those sarcastic remarks, at least be consistent with one thing; a correct answer.
To the OP: asymmetrical tires like the RE050As can be rotated as long as they aren't asymmetrical and unidirectional. (I believe the RE050as are only asymmetrical) So you can rotate left to right but i'd see no difference. There is an outside and an inside to an asymmetrical tire and you cannot take off the tire and mount it on the opposing side going the same direction. (The inside of the tire will now be on the outside, opposing what the tire was designed to do) Cross swapping the tire like in the link DaveZ showed you is only ok for tires like Toyo T1-Rs, or any other unidirectional tire. Asymmetricals can be rotated like you want, but not cross swapped. You will not gain extra life from swapping the tires from left to right, because the inner camber wear will be present still on the inside of the tire.. hope this is not confusing to you.
If you were to have a tire that is unidirectional like the Toyos, you can cross swap and put the inner part of the tire on the outter portion facing the same direction. Your tire is like the Pirelli Pzero tires; there is always an outside to them. They are designed this way to help cornering (hence outside) and inside usually is designed to channel water. You do not want to cross mount the RE050a tires.
Cliffs: You can rotate your tires, but do not dismount and mount on the otherside facing the same direction. Rotating = Removing rim with tire mounted, and putting it on other side of car. Cross swapping = dismounting the right tire and mounting on the left and vice versa, facing the same direction.
To the OP: asymmetrical tires like the RE050As can be rotated as long as they aren't asymmetrical and unidirectional. (I believe the RE050as are only asymmetrical) So you can rotate left to right but i'd see no difference. There is an outside and an inside to an asymmetrical tire and you cannot take off the tire and mount it on the opposing side going the same direction. (The inside of the tire will now be on the outside, opposing what the tire was designed to do) Cross swapping the tire like in the link DaveZ showed you is only ok for tires like Toyo T1-Rs, or any other unidirectional tire. Asymmetricals can be rotated like you want, but not cross swapped. You will not gain extra life from swapping the tires from left to right, because the inner camber wear will be present still on the inside of the tire.. hope this is not confusing to you.
If you were to have a tire that is unidirectional like the Toyos, you can cross swap and put the inner part of the tire on the outter portion facing the same direction. Your tire is like the Pirelli Pzero tires; there is always an outside to them. They are designed this way to help cornering (hence outside) and inside usually is designed to channel water. You do not want to cross mount the RE050a tires.
Cliffs: You can rotate your tires, but do not dismount and mount on the otherside facing the same direction. Rotating = Removing rim with tire mounted, and putting it on other side of car. Cross swapping = dismounting the right tire and mounting on the left and vice versa, facing the same direction.
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^^ Hey mr. always sarcastic man, if you want to continue relaying those sarcastic remarks, at least be consistent with one thing; a correct answer.
To the OP: asymmetrical tires like the RE050As can be rotated as long as they aren't asymmetrical and unidirectional. (I believe the RE050as are only asymmetrical) So you can rotate left to right but i'd see no difference. There is an outside and an inside to an asymmetrical tire and you cannot take off the tire and mount it on the opposing side going the same direction. (The inside of the tire will now be on the outside, opposing what the tire was designed to do) Cross swapping the tire like in the link DaveZ showed you is only ok for tires like Toyo T1-Rs, or any other unidirectional tire. Asymmetricals can be rotated like you want, but not cross swapped. You will not gain extra life from swapping the tires from left to right, because the inner camber wear will be present still on the inside of the tire.. hope this is not confusing to you.
If you were to have a tire that is unidirectional like the Toyos, you can cross swap and put the inner part of the tire on the outter portion facing the same direction. Your tire is like the Pirelli Pzero tires; there is always an outside to them. They are designed this way to help cornering (hence outside) and inside usually is designed to channel water. You do not want to cross mount the RE050a tires.
Cliffs: You can rotate your tires, but do not dismount and mount on the otherside facing the same direction. Rotating = Removing rim with tire mounted, and putting it on other side of car. Cross swapping = dismounting the right tire and mounting on the left and vice versa, facing the same direction.
To the OP: asymmetrical tires like the RE050As can be rotated as long as they aren't asymmetrical and unidirectional. (I believe the RE050as are only asymmetrical) So you can rotate left to right but i'd see no difference. There is an outside and an inside to an asymmetrical tire and you cannot take off the tire and mount it on the opposing side going the same direction. (The inside of the tire will now be on the outside, opposing what the tire was designed to do) Cross swapping the tire like in the link DaveZ showed you is only ok for tires like Toyo T1-Rs, or any other unidirectional tire. Asymmetricals can be rotated like you want, but not cross swapped. You will not gain extra life from swapping the tires from left to right, because the inner camber wear will be present still on the inside of the tire.. hope this is not confusing to you.
If you were to have a tire that is unidirectional like the Toyos, you can cross swap and put the inner part of the tire on the outter portion facing the same direction. Your tire is like the Pirelli Pzero tires; there is always an outside to them. They are designed this way to help cornering (hence outside) and inside usually is designed to channel water. You do not want to cross mount the RE050a tires.
Cliffs: You can rotate your tires, but do not dismount and mount on the otherside facing the same direction. Rotating = Removing rim with tire mounted, and putting it on other side of car. Cross swapping = dismounting the right tire and mounting on the left and vice versa, facing the same direction.
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03-15-2009, 12:44 PM
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^^ Hey mr. always sarcastic man, if you want to continue relaying those sarcastic remarks, at least be consistent with one thing; a correct answer.
To the OP: asymmetrical tires like the RE050As can be rotated as long as they aren't asymmetrical and unidirectional. (I believe the RE050as are only asymmetrical) So you can rotate left to right but i'd see no difference. There is an outside and an inside to an asymmetrical tire and you cannot take off the tire and mount it on the opposing side going the same direction. (The inside of the tire will now be on the outside, opposing what the tire was designed to do) Cross swapping the tire like in the link DaveZ showed you is only ok for tires like Toyo T1-Rs, or any other unidirectional tire. Asymmetricals can be rotated like you want, but not cross swapped. You will not gain extra life from swapping the tires from left to right, because the inner camber wear will be present still on the inside of the tire.. hope this is not confusing to you.
If you were to have a tire that is unidirectional like the Toyos, you can cross swap and put the inner part of the tire on the outter portion facing the same direction. Your tire is like the Pirelli Pzero tires; there is always an outside to them. They are designed this way to help cornering (hence outside) and inside usually is designed to channel water. You do not want to cross mount the RE050a tires.
Cliffs: You can rotate your tires, but do not dismount and mount on the otherside facing the same direction. Rotating = Removing rim with tire mounted, and putting it on other side of car. Cross swapping = dismounting the right tire and mounting on the left and vice versa, facing the same direction.
To the OP: asymmetrical tires like the RE050As can be rotated as long as they aren't asymmetrical and unidirectional. (I believe the RE050as are only asymmetrical) So you can rotate left to right but i'd see no difference. There is an outside and an inside to an asymmetrical tire and you cannot take off the tire and mount it on the opposing side going the same direction. (The inside of the tire will now be on the outside, opposing what the tire was designed to do) Cross swapping the tire like in the link DaveZ showed you is only ok for tires like Toyo T1-Rs, or any other unidirectional tire. Asymmetricals can be rotated like you want, but not cross swapped. You will not gain extra life from swapping the tires from left to right, because the inner camber wear will be present still on the inside of the tire.. hope this is not confusing to you.
If you were to have a tire that is unidirectional like the Toyos, you can cross swap and put the inner part of the tire on the outter portion facing the same direction. Your tire is like the Pirelli Pzero tires; there is always an outside to them. They are designed this way to help cornering (hence outside) and inside usually is designed to channel water. You do not want to cross mount the RE050a tires.
Cliffs: You can rotate your tires, but do not dismount and mount on the otherside facing the same direction. Rotating = Removing rim with tire mounted, and putting it on other side of car. Cross swapping = dismounting the right tire and mounting on the left and vice versa, facing the same direction.
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03-15-2009, 01:38 PM
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^^ wasn't bringing to your attention anything, I was helping the OP. Just stating that you are giving him information he doesn't need, like taking the tires off the wheels, and keeping them going the same direction on the wrong side of the car.
03-15-2009, 01:53 PM
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I have RE050A Pole Positions. IIRC, there is an "outside" and "inside" part on the tire. Running a staggered setup, you can only rotate left to right. Why would you even bother rotating these types of tires? The same wear line on the left tire will end up in the same relative spot on the other side of the vehicle...
03-15-2009, 04:11 PM
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I have RE050A Pole Positions. IIRC, there is an "outside" and "inside" part on the tire. Running a staggered setup, you can only rotate left to right. Why would you even bother rotating these types of tires? The same wear line on the left tire will end up in the same relative spot on the other side of the vehicle...
IMO, the only way you're going to get anywhere is by dismounting the tire and swapping the wheels so that the inside/outside is swapped.
Of course, we don't even know what the reason for the swap is so it's all conjecture.
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