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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Also, just to let you all know. I did check the psi on all four tires before driving because I was on the way to Los Angeles for a business meeting. They were all at 35 psi.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:39 PM
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Wow, all I have to say is holy F*ing S*it!!!
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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the puncture would have been while driving Id imagine...

it happens I guess, any number of things, you not noticing a flat does not make you less of a man. tires these days are stiff, and in a low profile they will hold up pretty well.

Ive heard stories of tires ruined(not to THAT point) but ruined just in the time it takes to slow the car down and pull over. it didnt need to be a very long time for it to get out of hand.

rims dont look damaged... Im sure theyll take care of you, or atleast get down to the bottom of things.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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OH NOOOO!!!

Luckily no other serious damage was done when your tires blew up.

But man...getting new rims and having this happen, I would be really upset.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ultimateone
He drove his car.....

wow, first make sure someone's getting you brand new tires for "absolutely nothing" and if theres any damage to your insane wheels make them pay for it! You just installed the wheels and tires and that is ridiculous

Good luck
There could have been a puncture or poorly sealed valve and he didn't notice the air leaking out. For this to happen, a solid piece of reinforced rubber to rip the whole way round by driving 20 miles is not physically possible. Unless Falken decided to try paper as tire material or if there was some additional factor.

Any ways this was a good lesson for me, to put a aftermarket tire pressure warning device before getting low profile tires.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Did your tire pressure sensor indicate a loss of pressure before the blow-out? I think that it should have been blinking a warning if there was loss of air before the big bang.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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Wow.........that is frustrating to say the least. I am glad it did not result in an accident of some sort. You were lucky.

I guess we have four possibilites here:

1. Defective Tire

2. Improper Installation / valve stem

3. Compatibility Issue

4. Driving on a tire with low or no air pressure

Of course number 4 could be caused by a variety of things. Slow leak around rim, bad valve stem, road hazard, vandalism........etc.

I hope you gave your vendor a chance to make it right before you blasted him in the thread. After all, he wasn't the only one involved in the process of getting them on the car. In business one Aww Sh*t erases a thousand Atta boys. JMO....

Again, glad you are okay.........lots of scary things could have happened with a tire situation like that.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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It only takes one block to pick up a nail or something. Price you pay to play. I feel for you bro. Good Luck!
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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I don't feel that I have blasted the vendor in any way. I still believe they will come through. All I said was that I would like to resolve this quickly since I have a business trip. It's not only about the sale, its also about the customer service that is key to a successful business. I know this for a fact since my corporation would not have made $8million since it started in Jan. Customer Service and follow through is how you gain and retain customers.

Tire puncture? There are no holes to indicate any of this happening. I took it straight to the installers this morning, and they couldn't find one either, only the tear around the rim.

As for a faulty valve stem or slow leak, I've driven my car every day to work to home since the installation(about 8 times on the freeway). Right before I jumped onto the freeway for my trip this morning, I checked my psi and sure enough, it had 35psi on all four. After all, my rims are $1,100 per piece, and I wanted to make sure my babies were comfortably wrapped.

Compatability Issues: These tires and sizes were recommended to me by the vendor, so I have full confidence that these were the right sizes.

If anything, I believe this post will benefit the vendor because it will shine through if and when they do the right thing. This will definitely show potential customers that they are there for the long run and not for the quick buck. Believe me, I will be the first to post RAVE REVIEWS on this board when my issue is resolved.

As for me, I'm ok, but it was kinda scary swerving around the freeway when the blowout happened. Luckily able stabilize it and slow it down.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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that's why I had to find aftermarket rims that can mount our TPS. I feel the TPS is a very important part of information tool, that it will save me from something like this...

hopefully everything gets resolved soon....
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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not to step on any toes, but tho it does land on the vendor to somewhat work out a resolution, they are definitly not at fault... it is not their job to do inspections on their tires, they did not mount the tires, all they did was sell the tires....

blame lands either on falken, the mounting shop, or the use of the tire getting punctured on the road. only way discount tire is liable is if they put a puncture into the tire or something, which is of course impossible since it was mounted and holding air.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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omg! are your wheels ok!?!?!
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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First of all, if you have an $8 million dollar business and $1,100 a piece rims, why in the hell would the Falken 451 be your tire of choice? Seems to me you should have chosen the T1-S or the F1 or something similar.

Secondly, HOLY CRAP!!! Those are the tires that I put on my brand new and less expensive 18 inch Privat Fahren rims which went onto my brand new car which I have taken to 140 on several occasions and taken corners at 110. This worries me to say the least. Perhaps I should take my own advice and save up for a new set of rubber because I will worry myself to death now. Either that or I can never take the car above 60. Crap...
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by PropaGanda
First of all, if you have an $8 million dollar business and $1,100 a piece rims, why in the hell would the Falken 451 be your tire of choice? Seems to me you should have chosen the T1-S or the F1 or something similar.
first of all i have the same tires and they are fine (so it must be a defect in the tire or it was the tire shop

i watched my tire shop mount the tires and boy was it tough...they didnt dare do anythng stupid because i was watching them + they are a reputable place...but your guys might have gotten frustrated and started prying it on or something

trust me..you must consider that..is not as crazy as it sounds

2nd point is...doesnt matter how much $ you have

just because the tires are cheaper doesnt mean they shouldnt be able to be good

assuming someone couldnt afford t1s or s03s....they should just be **** out of luck??

what do they tell 90% of the population in america "sorry people your just gonna have to drive on busted tires"

NO!
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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who cares.. tires are gonna wear out any way...

if your gonna race you wouldnt be on 19's any way...
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Old Oct 5, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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guys, Look at the pics closely.

I have had a flat and worn thru 2 tires in the past. The BIG difference between what mine looked like are that mine had consistant wear around it along the sidewall, where his looks like it is RIPPED around the side-2 totally different things.

I am sure they will take care of you, Discount has been good to me in the past, so I am sure you will be fine.
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Old Oct 5, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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wow. that looks pretty bad. surprised that there was no damage to your rim. glad to hear that your ok though. i also have the falken 451s on my z. so far so good. no problems whatsoever. i have about 2000 miles on ' em so far and i was able to drive hard, peel out, and go above 125mph with no problems.
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Old Oct 5, 2003 | 01:05 AM
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looking at the pictures again... tryin to see what yuo are saying about them "ripping"

i dont see it..

they were defintly drivin on to be cut...

its on the INSIDE of the rim where they cut which is the LOWEST point of contact with the rear camber angle... (inside lower / out side higher ya know)...

the profile is soo low on those tires that if you were to have the tires completely flat.. the natural camber of the wheel would only have the inside of the rim touching the ground and the out side (part that would rub on a curb) looking like its fully inflated...

thats just how i see it... i dont wanna get in the way of the vendor and consumor and start any problems there.. specially because once i get my rims ill be going to them for tires aswell...

but probably what happend is the mounting wasnt done properly or the air plug thingy wasnt installed properly.. from driving ta high way speeds somehting moved and let air out...
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Old Oct 5, 2003 | 01:11 AM
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I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!

when you checked your tire pressure did you do it using a manual presure gauge?

what if the air tube didnt go back to the point where it keeps air from going out.. you know when you dont push that little thingy in...

and it just kept letting air get out... and out .and out...slowly enough to go all the way flat..

I had a set of Konig's on a civic a few years ago... my rear tire would always go flat after a few weeks...

turned out.. there was a whole smaller then the head of a pin in my rim!!! like on the inner lip behind the spokes... had to have a whole drilled into the rim and then welded shut..

maybe that rim has a whole in it?
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Old Oct 5, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by tree-fity-zee
I've only driven the car twice, less than 20 miles and BAM totally ripped at the seams!
Originally posted by tree-fity-zee


As for a faulty valve stem or slow leak, I've driven my car every day to work to home since the installation (about 8 times on the freeway). Right before I jumped onto the freeway for my trip this morning, I checked my psi and sure enough, it had 35psi on all four.
umm, what's going on here?
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