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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Had the stupid TPMS light on for a week. All tires were checked for nails and pressure but the stupid light stayed on....finally the tire guy suggested nitrogen. Funny thing the light went out and the ride is 20% smoother and quieter. It is even taking ruts and holes better. Maybe its me but I am sold on nitrogen.



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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Karenlee
Had the stupid TPMS light on for a week. All tires were checked for nails and pressure but the stupid light stayed on....finally the tire guy suggested nitrogen. Funny thing the light went out and the ride is 20% smoother and quieter. It is even taking ruts and holes better. Maybe its me but I am sold on nitrogen.




runs to the nearest Nitrogen shop, oh wait, its 1130 pm!
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Isn't the air around us 78% Nitrogen? About 21% if Oxygen. The rest is various gases. I don't believe that putting in pure nitrogen would bring any noticeable difference. The pressure in the tire is what matters.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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LOL @ 20% smoother and quieter...


Apparently you measured these very scientifically to notice a 1/5 difference in two very subjective parameters. Also 20% seriously? Like I'd believe you could tell if it was like 50% better by feel, but 20% better...
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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nitrogen is better: i use it.

smoother
quieter
resistant to temperature change on hot/cold days
less leaking
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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When is nitrogen supposed to be readily available at gas stations?

Thats my only problem with it
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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LOL what a ......... Probably smoother and better cause he actually has the right amount of pressure in the tires.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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20%


It's Science!
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 07:10 AM
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Makes complete sense. 35 PSI of nitrogen is better than 35 PSI of air. Nitrogen atoms are softer.

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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Makes complete sense. 35 PSI of nitrogen is better than 35 PSI of air. Nitrogen atoms are softer.

Its like saying 1 ton of feathers is lighter then 1 ton of stone. haha
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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I noticed a 2.265% gain in traction when I dropped my air pressure by 1 PSI.

Anything's possible guys.









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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR
I noticed a 2.265% gain in traction when I dropped my air pressure by 1 PSI.

Anything's possible guys.










dang...i could only manage 1.230984234% with 1 psi less.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR
I noticed a 2.265% gain in traction when I dropped my air pressure by 1 PSI.

Anything's possible guys.
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dang...i could only manage 1.230984234% with 1 psi less.
he must have had nitrogen to get the full traction gain.
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Originally Posted by aloh
dang...i could only manage 1.230984234% with 1 psi less.
You need to get your butt dyno recalibrated.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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We haven't seen the long term benefits of nitrogen in passenger tires just yet. Typically used in race apps where you absolutely need more consistent pressures than what standard air can provide. Street cars really aren't put through the stresses a track car is to the point where nitrogen, or what you pay for it, will pay off. Also, if you lose nitrogen from the tire where can you fill it up at? If in a pinch and it has to be topped off with air then that negates the whole idea. Can't believe places charge what they do for it.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Congratulations, you using something aircraft have used for years.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. D
Congratulations, you using something aircraft have used for years.
Can we fly in our cars now?
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Nitrogen gas is used for the benefits of having less moisture vs normal 'Air'-- which leads to more consistant pressures as it heat is introduced.

the ride quality comment, damn. are you driving so fast or scrubbing so hard that the tires had heated up so much that you start seeing the affects of ride quality? hehe. get this guy a butt-dyno approved-stamp cuz he's certified and calibrated!
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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GTR's have nitrogen filled tires from the factory, probably doesn't make a difference though.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by -Vince-
Can we fly in our cars now?
Only if you get a HUGE wing for the back of the car.
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