Toyo T1R vs. Bridgestone RE-11
I'm considering these two options for my next set of tires. I currently have the Toyos but I was wondering how the RE-11's compare. Can anyone offer some advice on how they compare? Or at least just some information/opinions on those bridgestones?
Not really a close comparison if your decision lies with which performs better.....the RE-11 is an excellent tire. The T1R is much lower on the list of top tier (140-200 treadwear) street tires. The Star Specs, AD07/8's, RS3's, and Kumho XS's also perform quite a bit better than the T1R's.
I've heard nothing but good things about the RE-11's... I despise the T1-R's though, I had a bad personal experience with them and I'll never buy them again. I did however buy R888's to see how the handle for a couple events I'm entering when I get back.
Exactly the right question as these tires aren't really an apples to apples comparison. What tire is best is dependent on what you want it for. RE-11s are overkill if you are just daily driving IMO. If you track, how much do you track? Do you go a couple times a year or track every other weekend?
Based on that a recommendation is easier to make. In absolute terms a RE-11 is far better high performance tire than a T1-R.
Based on that a recommendation is easier to make. In absolute terms a RE-11 is far better high performance tire than a T1-R.
Exactly the right question as these tires aren't really an apples to apples comparison. What tire is best is dependent on what you want it for. RE-11s are overkill if you are just daily driving IMO. If you track, how much do you track? Do you go a couple times a year or track every other weekend?
Based on that a recommendation is easier to make. In absolute terms a RE-11 is far better high performance tire than a T1-R.
Based on that a recommendation is easier to make. In absolute terms a RE-11 is far better high performance tire than a T1-R.
IMO people go overboard on tires for daily drivers, or cars that aren't tracked. But hey it's not my money.
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My car is primarily street driven. My apologies for the comparison if the RE-11s are typically used on the track. Whatever website I was at where I was reading the description didn't indicate any specific use so I figured it was in the league of any other street tire. I'm looking for a street tire, but a quality street tire. I'm not too concerned about track performance because I'll track the car a couple times per year. Since the RE-11s are better all around why are the toyo's more expensive?
Last edited by Phenom; Aug 31, 2010 at 10:05 AM.
No need for apology. We're just asking the questions so we can better offer our opinions.
If you are looking for a decent street tire...there are lots of options. Bridgestones make other performance street tires (RE050A pole pos), and honestly there are too many brands to list all at once and offer opinions on every one.
I think the RE050A Poles are a solid tire, Michelin PS2s are the accepted standard in max performance street tires but not cheap. Cheaper options are readily available now as well. Around here Vredestein's have a good following, the new Hankook ventus v12 evos are solid daily driving tires IMO, some people have good opinions about Nitto Invos and Kumho SPTs.
IMO a 280-320 treadwear tire gives you a nice combination of acceptable performance with decent treadlife for a sporting daily driver. I'm sure people would be glad to offer their opinions once you've narrowed it down some more.
But ideally pick a budget for 4 tires (whether 800-900, 1000-1100, or 1300+) and look for tires in the range. Use tirerack and search around here for user opinions for a specific tire and see if it fits what you need.
I would go to Tirerack.com put in the sizes you need and look for a tire with a >200 treadwear (basically anything not listed as extreme performance summer tire or track/dot tire). Then pick a budget, read reviews and tests and pick a tire.
If you are looking for a decent street tire...there are lots of options. Bridgestones make other performance street tires (RE050A pole pos), and honestly there are too many brands to list all at once and offer opinions on every one.
I think the RE050A Poles are a solid tire, Michelin PS2s are the accepted standard in max performance street tires but not cheap. Cheaper options are readily available now as well. Around here Vredestein's have a good following, the new Hankook ventus v12 evos are solid daily driving tires IMO, some people have good opinions about Nitto Invos and Kumho SPTs.
IMO a 280-320 treadwear tire gives you a nice combination of acceptable performance with decent treadlife for a sporting daily driver. I'm sure people would be glad to offer their opinions once you've narrowed it down some more.
But ideally pick a budget for 4 tires (whether 800-900, 1000-1100, or 1300+) and look for tires in the range. Use tirerack and search around here for user opinions for a specific tire and see if it fits what you need.
I would go to Tirerack.com put in the sizes you need and look for a tire with a >200 treadwear (basically anything not listed as extreme performance summer tire or track/dot tire). Then pick a budget, read reviews and tests and pick a tire.
No need for apology. We're just asking the questions so we can better offer our opinions.
If you are looking for a decent street tire...there are lots of options. Bridgestones make other performance street tires (RE050A pole pos), and honestly there are too many brands to list all at once and offer opinions on every one.
I think the RE050A Poles are a solid tire, Michelin PS2s are the accepted standard in max performance street tires but not cheap. Cheaper options are readily available now as well. Around here Vredestein's have a good following, the new Hankook ventus v12 evos are solid daily driving tires IMO, some people have good opinions about Nitto Invos and Kumho SPTs.
IMO a 280-320 treadwear tire gives you a nice combination of acceptable performance with decent treadlife for a sporting daily driver. I'm sure people would be glad to offer their opinions once you've narrowed it down some more.
But ideally pick a budget for 4 tires (whether 800-900, 1000-1100, or 1300+) and look for tires in the range. Use tirerack and search around here for user opinions for a specific tire and see if it fits what you need.
I would go to Tirerack.com put in the sizes you need and look for a tire with a >200 treadwear (basically anything not listed as extreme performance summer tire or track/dot tire). Then pick a budget, read reviews and tests and pick a tire.
If you are looking for a decent street tire...there are lots of options. Bridgestones make other performance street tires (RE050A pole pos), and honestly there are too many brands to list all at once and offer opinions on every one.
I think the RE050A Poles are a solid tire, Michelin PS2s are the accepted standard in max performance street tires but not cheap. Cheaper options are readily available now as well. Around here Vredestein's have a good following, the new Hankook ventus v12 evos are solid daily driving tires IMO, some people have good opinions about Nitto Invos and Kumho SPTs.
IMO a 280-320 treadwear tire gives you a nice combination of acceptable performance with decent treadlife for a sporting daily driver. I'm sure people would be glad to offer their opinions once you've narrowed it down some more.
But ideally pick a budget for 4 tires (whether 800-900, 1000-1100, or 1300+) and look for tires in the range. Use tirerack and search around here for user opinions for a specific tire and see if it fits what you need.
I would go to Tirerack.com put in the sizes you need and look for a tire with a >200 treadwear (basically anything not listed as extreme performance summer tire or track/dot tire). Then pick a budget, read reviews and tests and pick a tire.
Your car came with the regular Bridgestone RE050A tires likely. Not a great tire at all.
The RE050A Pole Positions are a much more sorted tire.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridge...tone-tires.jsp
Look in the Max performance category, the RE050A comes in various flavors, the pole position one is far superior to the regular despite a 280 vs 140 tread rating. But there are other choices, I'm just clarifying that there is a significant difference between the regular and PP version.
edit: I should mention the new continent extreme contact DW, not DWS (all-season). Which has gotten pretty solid reviews from Tirerack and consumers for a daily driver tire.
The RE050A Pole Positions are a much more sorted tire.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridge...tone-tires.jsp
Look in the Max performance category, the RE050A comes in various flavors, the pole position one is far superior to the regular despite a 280 vs 140 tread rating. But there are other choices, I'm just clarifying that there is a significant difference between the regular and PP version.
edit: I should mention the new continent extreme contact DW, not DWS (all-season). Which has gotten pretty solid reviews from Tirerack and consumers for a daily driver tire.
Last edited by stradaONE8; Aug 31, 2010 at 01:26 PM.
I've spent a decent amount of time on tire rack in the past and I've never discovered that survey section with the comparison of several tires separated by category. Very very helpful info. And now I understand the problem with my orginal T1R vs. RE-11 question; the REs are in the Extreme performance category, which going by the sizes and description sound like the group of tires that would be chosen for the track, and the toyos are in the max performance category.
Also, I've never realized the RE050 and the pole position model were two different models. Those continentals look great according to tirerack's numbers, and the price isn't bad at alll either.
Thanks everyone for all the help and advice.
Also, I've never realized the RE050 and the pole position model were two different models. Those continentals look great according to tirerack's numbers, and the price isn't bad at alll either.
Thanks everyone for all the help and advice.
Just a thought... I bought Bridgestone RE760's for my LM's, they're inexpensive, quiet, and offer decent performance for a street tire. I'm not sure if they offer that size for the factory set up but I'd check it out. I bought them on Tire Rack too might I add.
You will know the difference between these tires on your very first hard corner. Only issue with the Re-11's is that you need to warm them up pretty good before they stick like gum.
Re-11 sidewall = King Kong
T1R sidewall = Stay Puft Marshmallow Man
Re-11 sidewall = King Kong
T1R sidewall = Stay Puft Marshmallow Man
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