Looking to upgrade handling for Christmas, what is the first thing to get?
I was looking to get something small for Christmas (~$400) and I would like to get something to upgrade the handling of the car. What would be the best thing to do? I know, i know, there are a million things. Please keep in mind that I have a G35.
What the heck are Traction Arms or Camber Bars???
What the heck are Traction Arms or Camber Bars???
Traction and Camber arms are not needed unless you have dropped the ride height.
For $400 I highly recommend a set of sway bars. Wether it be Cusco, NISMO, 350EVO, any of them will be a significant differeance.
I'm running the Cuscos. Install is very easy as I have posted here.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=44361
Hope that helps
Victor
For $400 I highly recommend a set of sway bars. Wether it be Cusco, NISMO, 350EVO, any of them will be a significant differeance.
I'm running the Cuscos. Install is very easy as I have posted here.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=44361
Hope that helps
Victor
Would you mind doing a quick follow up on this? From what i have read, it seems that the adjustable sways are a better bet. It doesn't look like these were adjustable?? This seems like an easy DIY mod for myself. Maybe this might be it. I assume the car now corners much flatter, but what else is there to gain from this? Did the ride suffer at all?? I personally don't want the car to get much tighter than it is, I do have another driver of the car other than myself.
May I suggest 350EVo adjustable sway bars!
We have been racing the 350Z in the Grand Am Cup series and developing our own suspension parts.
350EVO front control arms are endurance race proven and easily adjustable.
We have been racing the 350Z in the Grand Am Cup series and developing our own suspension parts.
350EVO front control arms are endurance race proven and easily adjustable.
everyone is very quick to mod their car.. but are you sure you're really even coming close to the limits of the stock suspension?
I've never driven a G35, but I've read over and over that it's very similar to the Z. I've taken my car to the track, and I know that the stock handling is extremely good. It takes a skilled driver to push the car so far that the stock suspension isn't up to the task.
I notice some understeer, but body roll is minimal, even with the stock setup. I'm sure race drivers (like those running the 350EVO Z in the Grand Am Cup) could really exercise the car, but people with little to no high performance driving experience (read: me) have much to learn.
If I were you, I'd save the $400 for a couple of good track days. Driving experience is better than modifications.
Down the line, when I actually learn to drive the car, I might look into swaybars and coilovers, etc.. but I'm just not even close at this point.
Also, keep in mind that adjustable parts mean that you need to really know how to adjust for your driving situation. Parts like adjustable swaybars and coilovers can actually decrease suspension quality and performance unless you set them appropriately. Without much experience doing so, you can unintentionally detract from the performance of the car. I've been told this repeatedly by people with a lot more track experience than I have.
Just my .02¢
I've never driven a G35, but I've read over and over that it's very similar to the Z. I've taken my car to the track, and I know that the stock handling is extremely good. It takes a skilled driver to push the car so far that the stock suspension isn't up to the task.
I notice some understeer, but body roll is minimal, even with the stock setup. I'm sure race drivers (like those running the 350EVO Z in the Grand Am Cup) could really exercise the car, but people with little to no high performance driving experience (read: me) have much to learn.
If I were you, I'd save the $400 for a couple of good track days. Driving experience is better than modifications.
Down the line, when I actually learn to drive the car, I might look into swaybars and coilovers, etc.. but I'm just not even close at this point.
Also, keep in mind that adjustable parts mean that you need to really know how to adjust for your driving situation. Parts like adjustable swaybars and coilovers can actually decrease suspension quality and performance unless you set them appropriately. Without much experience doing so, you can unintentionally detract from the performance of the car. I've been told this repeatedly by people with a lot more track experience than I have.
Just my .02¢
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Well, I have been autocrossing for a little while now (about 2 years), but I have always just modified engine and stuff like that. I have noticed that I am competitive with this car, but all the cars with R-compound tires are killing me by 1-2 seconds. I have my tires on order (that will be an experience in itself), but I want to be able to take full advantage of the car. I have noticed that in long sweepers, the car just drifts out, and out, and out....I would like to give it a little more bite mid turn, especially in the front. I feel that the swaybars might be able to help me there, or at least something along those lines (that is why I am asking). Granted, I may set them up incorrectly the first time out, but I have been listening to people and the way they set things up and I do understand what I would need to do to make it drive the way I like. I know this sounds stupid, but I have been driving RC cars on carpet for about 8 years now. The information I have gained there, i feel, directly transfers to REAL cars.
I have Cusco's and am very happy with them for my intended use.....Road Coarse. They are, I believe, the stiffest bars currently available. BUT, I drive very hard on the track.
I suggest you spend the money at a High Speed Drivers School FIRST......then decide if you need to alter your Z's handling.
I suggest you spend the money at a High Speed Drivers School FIRST......then decide if you need to alter your Z's handling.
Alot of these things that you guys are saying about driving school is true, but I will say, even a novice can see a bit of a difference in how the car handles. If they want that difference, it is their money and let them spend it.
For that amount of money, sways are your best suspension upgrade. But the plenum would be nice too, if you are saying N/A.
For that amount of money, sways are your best suspension upgrade. But the plenum would be nice too, if you are saying N/A.
Sounds good to me. I think that I might settle for the sways. I already have the Crawford on order, and I have a plan to go to an open track session with instructors. Seems like I am well on my way here. Now, hopefully with my R-compounds, I will be able to dial in on those Porsche's that are at my club (can't seem to keep up with the Boxster S's), and hopefully the sways will help me.
WHere would you guys buy adjustable sway bars? I think I want to go with them instead. www.350evo.com isn't up and running, and I think I might want to go with his sways. Any ideas??
WHere would you guys buy adjustable sway bars? I think I want to go with them instead. www.350evo.com isn't up and running, and I think I might want to go with his sways. Any ideas??
Call me on Monday I will be happy to answer any questsions you have about our products.
The website has just been waiting for the credit card stuff witht the bank to go through so we will be able to take online orders.
Also when the site does go live.........if you dont see it we can get it......and we will also take orders over the phone.
Cheers
Bj@350EVO.com
The website has just been waiting for the credit card stuff witht the bank to go through so we will be able to take online orders.
Also when the site does go live.........if you dont see it we can get it......and we will also take orders over the phone.
Cheers
Bj@350EVO.com
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