Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta Tires
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Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta Tires
Hey everyone,
Has anyone had any experience with Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta Tires?
You can see them here: http://www.tiresbyweb.com/p-9015-vre...nta-tires.aspx
Anyone own these or heard anything about them? Considering picking a pair up. Heard pretty good things from consumer magazines, but id much prefer some first hand customer experiences.
Much appreciated. Thanks!
Has anyone had any experience with Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta Tires?
You can see them here: http://www.tiresbyweb.com/p-9015-vre...nta-tires.aspx
Anyone own these or heard anything about them? Considering picking a pair up. Heard pretty good things from consumer magazines, but id much prefer some first hand customer experiences.
Much appreciated. Thanks!
A few years ago they were the "hot" tires to have. I think people found out the old adage that you get what you pay for was oh-so-true in this case. Now you hardly see them mentioned anymore.
I have seen TONS of feedback on Euro forums recently...very positive.
I will be looking at these myself..they come in a wide range of aggressive sizing too.
Last edited by ronn1; May 20, 2012 at 02:24 PM.
I used these for a couple years. I thought they compared very favorably to the T1-R's I used to run, but at a much better price. However, they didn't last long at all once I went to a more "stanced" setup, so I switched to Falkens at that time.
I would definitely use them again on a application where I wasn't running much camber.
I would definitely use them again on a application where I wasn't running much camber.
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I used these for a couple years. I thought they compared very favorably to the T1-R's I used to run, but at a much better price. However, they didn't last long at all once I went to a more "stanced" setup, so I switched to Falkens at that time.
I would definitely use them again on a application where I wasn't running much camber.
I would definitely use them again on a application where I wasn't running much camber.
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I've had mine for a couple of years on my G35 and put about 20-25K miles on them. 1/3 tread left on the rears until I need to change. I just drive daily like a normal person and floor it once every couple of days.
225/40/19 and 245/40/19 stock potenzas original
245/35/19 and 255/40/19 vredestein ultrac sessanta
They cost me about $9xx shipped and I still think you can get them for under $1000.
They are wearing slower than my potenzas and are not as rock hard which is the best part. The wider fronts give me more understeer and rolling resistance but it feels good (to me). I would say they are slightly quieter than the potenzas even though they are wider (wider usually = louder). If you go up to 40 cold psi it is a pretty smooth and quieter ride but I like it at 34-36.
Dry traction is excellent, much better than stock.
I've driven through a couple of flash floods, 3 inches of rain in an hour, faster than your wipers can clear rain for visibility, and still had traction up to 45-50mph at which point you can feel the hydroplane (it was a 3 lane highway with no cars around so I tested it out). I feel that they channel water pretty well in heavy rain but when the road is just a little slick or with light rain there is more traction loss than you'd expect, especially when trying to brake on the painted road lines/turn arrows.
Now remember, this is from just an average joe stock daily driver. As Dave said, especially on the track, you will probably get what you pay for.
I've thought about trying the michelin super sports for my next set but my fronts wear half as fast so I will go through another set of vredesteins for the rear.
225/40/19 and 245/40/19 stock potenzas original
245/35/19 and 255/40/19 vredestein ultrac sessanta
They cost me about $9xx shipped and I still think you can get them for under $1000.
They are wearing slower than my potenzas and are not as rock hard which is the best part. The wider fronts give me more understeer and rolling resistance but it feels good (to me). I would say they are slightly quieter than the potenzas even though they are wider (wider usually = louder). If you go up to 40 cold psi it is a pretty smooth and quieter ride but I like it at 34-36.
Dry traction is excellent, much better than stock.
I've driven through a couple of flash floods, 3 inches of rain in an hour, faster than your wipers can clear rain for visibility, and still had traction up to 45-50mph at which point you can feel the hydroplane (it was a 3 lane highway with no cars around so I tested it out). I feel that they channel water pretty well in heavy rain but when the road is just a little slick or with light rain there is more traction loss than you'd expect, especially when trying to brake on the painted road lines/turn arrows.
Now remember, this is from just an average joe stock daily driver. As Dave said, especially on the track, you will probably get what you pay for.
I've thought about trying the michelin super sports for my next set but my fronts wear half as fast so I will go through another set of vredesteins for the rear.
I've had mine for a couple of years on my G35 and put about 20-25K miles on them. 1/3 tread left on the rears until I need to change. I just drive daily like a normal person and floor it once every couple of days.
225/40/19 and 245/40/19 stock potenzas original
245/35/19 and 255/40/19 vredestein ultrac sessanta
They cost me about $9xx shipped and I still think you can get them for under $1000.
They are wearing slower than my potenzas and are not as rock hard which is the best part. The wider fronts give me more understeer and rolling resistance but it feels good (to me). I would say they are slightly quieter than the potenzas even though they are wider (wider usually = louder). If you go up to 40 cold psi it is a pretty smooth and quieter ride but I like it at 34-36.
Dry traction is excellent, much better than stock.
I've driven through a couple of flash floods, 3 inches of rain in an hour, faster than your wipers can clear rain for visibility, and still had traction up to 45-50mph at which point you can feel the hydroplane (it was a 3 lane highway with no cars around so I tested it out). I feel that they channel water pretty well in heavy rain but when the road is just a little slick or with light rain there is more traction loss than you'd expect, especially when trying to brake on the painted road lines/turn arrows.
Now remember, this is from just an average joe stock daily driver. As Dave said, especially on the track, you will probably get what you pay for.
I've thought about trying the michelin super sports for my next set but my fronts wear half as fast so I will go through another set of vredesteins for the rear.
225/40/19 and 245/40/19 stock potenzas original
245/35/19 and 255/40/19 vredestein ultrac sessanta
They cost me about $9xx shipped and I still think you can get them for under $1000.
They are wearing slower than my potenzas and are not as rock hard which is the best part. The wider fronts give me more understeer and rolling resistance but it feels good (to me). I would say they are slightly quieter than the potenzas even though they are wider (wider usually = louder). If you go up to 40 cold psi it is a pretty smooth and quieter ride but I like it at 34-36.
Dry traction is excellent, much better than stock.
I've driven through a couple of flash floods, 3 inches of rain in an hour, faster than your wipers can clear rain for visibility, and still had traction up to 45-50mph at which point you can feel the hydroplane (it was a 3 lane highway with no cars around so I tested it out). I feel that they channel water pretty well in heavy rain but when the road is just a little slick or with light rain there is more traction loss than you'd expect, especially when trying to brake on the painted road lines/turn arrows.
Now remember, this is from just an average joe stock daily driver. As Dave said, especially on the track, you will probably get what you pay for.
I've thought about trying the michelin super sports for my next set but my fronts wear half as fast so I will go through another set of vredesteins for the rear.
Thanks for feedback.
I have been running continental DW and DWS on other cars, depending on pricing those will likely be my next tires for the Z
Last edited by Zivman; May 26, 2012 at 03:41 PM.
They were a hot tire to get because of the price. I have them on my car and they are very good considering you could get them for 25% less than almost any other tire. Now, they are priced more comparatively and aren't really worth tracking down a set when there are a handful of other tires more readily available that are about as good.
I have been running continental DW and DWS on other cars, depending on pricing those will likely be my next tires for the Z
I have been running continental DW and DWS on other cars, depending on pricing those will likely be my next tires for the Z
http://www.vulcantire.com/sessanta_t.htm
Check out prices here..even with shipping you're looking at around $850 for a set (265s and 295s 18").
http://www.vulcantire.com/sessanta_t.htm
http://www.vulcantire.com/sessanta_t.htm
Anyway, what other tires (ultra Summer..not Max) would you recommend in THOSE SIZES at $850 out the door? The only other ones I can think of are VentusEvo, Nitto Invo and RE760. The first two have softer sidewalls, so the RE760 would be the only other one for me (at these prices in those sizes).
$725 SHIPPED for those sizes?
Anyway, what other tires (ultra Summer..not Max) would you recommend in THOSE SIZES at $850 out the door? The only other ones I can think of are VentusEvo, Nitto Invo and RE760. The first two have softer sidewalls, so the RE760 would be the only other one for me (at these prices in those sizes).
Anyway, what other tires (ultra Summer..not Max) would you recommend in THOSE SIZES at $850 out the door? The only other ones I can think of are VentusEvo, Nitto Invo and RE760. The first two have softer sidewalls, so the RE760 would be the only other one for me (at these prices in those sizes).
So, for about the same money you could get conti DW, KDW2 BFG, and the tires you listed. I am not badmouthing the vredesteins, just saying for about a grand (850 + install) you have choices that might be more readily available. My local shops can source and install other brands in the same day vs ordering the vredesteins on my own and then taking them in with me for install.