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03-11-2009, 09:08 AM
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the sad part is that you can't understand we are trying to help you in your goal process of FI on a stock motor.. since Alberto and i have been FI for 3 years for myself and 4 or more for Alberto..we seen it all in this forum.. we are trying to help YOU on your goals.. again if you feel you want to set your goal at 500 whp with limited data for your stock block.. thats fine..
but again.. an HR has already blown up at Forged with 500 whp.. personally i would set my goals 30 to 40 whp lower than that.. unless you have a spare block laying around.. then go for it
but again.. an HR has already blown up at Forged with 500 whp.. personally i would set my goals 30 to 40 whp lower than that.. unless you have a spare block laying around.. then go for it
03-11-2009, 09:08 AM
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These numbers games happen with new models, redesigned engines, etc. They happen all the time. Generally like most things engines evolve, in turn the can handle more power. How much more? Only TIME and several different owners and conditions will tell. Not enough time or owners have tested the HR's to call out any number as safe.
Well over 100 DE's were boosted when the agreed limits were 450whp on this forum. That was "the number" at the time of my stock block boost endeavor. I tuned to under 400whp, and BOOM after 3000 miles!
Many cars had now been built by reputable shops when I decided to build my block and raise the boost-(THIS IS WHEN 500whp BUILT was the **** btw). My block was seen as the hottest $hit since sliced bread by 99% of the community AT THE TIME, including numerous respected vendors. It was advertised as tested and built to hold 1000whp. I drove it at 525whp 90% of the time and BOOM after 9000 miles and stupid amounts of $$$$.
The point Im trying to make is, DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING you read from shops, even the respected ones. Look at it like this...
Shop A boosts an HR and brags it holds 500whp fine
Shop B boosts an HR and brags they are running 400whp safely
Who do 95% of people go to? Now do you get my point?
Good luck with your project, I hope by the time Sharif decides to tune your car you would have learned from others mistakes and decided to not back up what you believe to be true right now.
Well over 100 DE's were boosted when the agreed limits were 450whp on this forum. That was "the number" at the time of my stock block boost endeavor. I tuned to under 400whp, and BOOM after 3000 miles!
Many cars had now been built by reputable shops when I decided to build my block and raise the boost-(THIS IS WHEN 500whp BUILT was the **** btw). My block was seen as the hottest $hit since sliced bread by 99% of the community AT THE TIME, including numerous respected vendors. It was advertised as tested and built to hold 1000whp. I drove it at 525whp 90% of the time and BOOM after 9000 miles and stupid amounts of $$$$.
The point Im trying to make is, DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING you read from shops, even the respected ones. Look at it like this...
Shop A boosts an HR and brags it holds 500whp fine
Shop B boosts an HR and brags they are running 400whp safely
Who do 95% of people go to? Now do you get my point?
Good luck with your project, I hope by the time Sharif decides to tune your car you would have learned from others mistakes and decided to not back up what you believe to be true right now.
03-11-2009, 09:10 AM
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Really? But let's see...who are the two that were doing the name calling. You and Alberto.
the majority of high post count users have been banned multiple times from this forum.. what exactly is your point?
if anyone is showing aggression in this thread its you.. so if anyone is trying to start an E-Fight its you.
I would love to know the list of sites i have been banned from.. since you are the holder of such great knowledge.. and really.. is being banned from a site any indication of anything? it just means you had a disagreement with the moderators/admins... if you have never had a disagreement with anyone then i guess you are too much of a p... to express your opinion.. maybe you are like sheep.. you just follow the flock.. hell if i know
if anyone is showing aggression in this thread its you.. so if anyone is trying to start an E-Fight its you.
I would love to know the list of sites i have been banned from.. since you are the holder of such great knowledge.. and really.. is being banned from a site any indication of anything? it just means you had a disagreement with the moderators/admins... if you have never had a disagreement with anyone then i guess you are too much of a p... to express your opinion.. maybe you are like sheep.. you just follow the flock.. hell if i know
03-11-2009, 09:11 AM
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in case you havn't noticed.. this is the FI Forum.. we don't do things for "lulz" in this forum.. we talk about real performance and how it will help/hurt people and the right steps to take.. if you are looking for a circle jerk and having lulz.. head back to the OT Forum
03-11-2009, 09:11 AM
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both sides of the story should be told if told at all.
03-11-2009, 09:12 AM
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And post 21 in that link answers it all. The guy had issues already with his motor it wasn't because the HR can't handle the boost.
03-11-2009, 09:12 AM
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https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...rformance.html
both sides of the story should be told if told at all.
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03-11-2009, 09:14 AM
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i understand you have good intentions man,like i said if im offending you then i apologize,but no need for calling someone a nuthugger,stupid,etc. im still working on details for what i want exactly and havent spoken to shariff about it yet other than mentioning to him im looking into the gtm kit,so my power goal may end up being different.
All this arguing and you havent even decided on a kit or power goal? I practice what I preach, people dont like to hear it sometimes, but Ive always been honest on this site.
Be a man and boost your car to 500whp because YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE SAFE, then do me a favor and mention "Alberto-you were right" in your "I blew my car the fawk up" thread....
03-11-2009, 09:14 AM
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Really? By these posts you say I don't have the knowledge? I have been into cars for 25 years. I have boosted cars, raced cars professionally, you name it I have been there. So how do you know I have a lack of knowledge. Oh wait, thats right it's the Alberto better than everyone attitude again.
03-11-2009, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif
Your rods must have been damaged/defective from the start becuase there is no way that 10psi'ish of boost is going to bend a VQ37HR rod after less than 10 dyno pulls buddy.
thank you for proving our point
03-11-2009, 09:15 AM
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do you have anything of substance to add to this thread? or are you going to keep taking cheap shots for your own entertainment..
in case you havn't noticed.. this is the FI Forum.. we don't do things for "lulz" in this forum.. we talk about real performance and how it will help/hurt people and the right steps to take.. if you are looking for a circle jerk and having lulz.. head back to the OT Forum
in case you havn't noticed.. this is the FI Forum.. we don't do things for "lulz" in this forum.. we talk about real performance and how it will help/hurt people and the right steps to take.. if you are looking for a circle jerk and having lulz.. head back to the OT Forum
03-11-2009, 09:15 AM
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Alberto who owns a FI DE Z, and who has blown his **** up I guess and had a ton of experience unlike me. He is just saying you never know for sure, and he is saying this because there have not been enough HR motors to determine that 500whp is the magic safe number. Also, people seem to forget how much 500whp really is, and that the DE and HR come with pretty much the same power stock. So yeah..... I guess this will be more confusing and I will be bashed but thats okay you are a idiot!!!
03-11-2009, 09:15 AM
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some DE's let go at less than 400 whp.. some VQ's ran strong above 450 whp..
the fact is VQ's weren't built for boost.. so anything is possible.. so who knows how many other VQ's were built like this one
03-11-2009, 09:16 AM
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All this arguing and you havent even decided on a kit or power goal? I practice what I preach, people dont like to hear it sometimes, but Ive always been honest on this site.
Be a man and boost your car to 500whp because YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE SAFE, then do me a favor and mention "Alberto-you were right" in your "I blew my car the fawk up" thread....
Be a man and boost your car to 500whp because YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE SAFE, then do me a favor and mention "Alberto-you were right" in your "I blew my car the fawk up" thread....
03-11-2009, 09:16 AM
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https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...rformance.html
both sides of the story should be told if told at all.
both sides of the story should be told if told at all.