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Old 11-15-2016, 05:40 PM
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so i kept driving without changing my oil and now there's a knock. is it the bearings that need to be replaced, or the whole engine? can it be something other than bearings? ironically, it happened when i was on my way to change the oil. i heard the sound after i warmed up the car and drove off then stopped to check the noise, i heard the knock and proceeded to drive but knock went after i drove. after an hour of being parked i turn the car on and the knock is there even when i press gas.
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First, how long has it been since you last changed the oil in your VQ? Next, what was the oil level BEFORE you started driving to the oil change? Did you check the oil level after you heard the rod knock? Finally, how many miles are on the car currently?

In general, the VQ (all types) are strong, precision-built engines that only need a supply of clean, fresh oil to operate efficiently. Hard to guess what kind of engine damage you've inflicted unless you address the questions above.
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Originally Posted by dkmura
First, how long has it been since you last changed the oil in your VQ? Next, what was the oil level BEFORE you started driving to the oil change? Did you check the oil level after you heard the rod knock? Finally, how many miles are on the car currently?

In general, the VQ (all types) are strong, precision-built engines that only need a supply of clean, fresh oil to operate efficiently. Hard to guess what kind of engine damage you've inflicted unless you address the questions above.
i've had the car a week now, and previous owner drove it for about 3k miles. he got it services with new oil in it so by the time i bought it from him, it was time for an oil change. i never checked the oil level before the knock but after, the dipstick didn't have any oil on it. it must've starved. it has 155k miles.
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Originally Posted by tarek gabris
i've had the car a week now, and previous owner drove it for about 3k miles. he got it services with new oil in it so by the time i bought it from him, it was time for an oil change. i never checked the oil level before the knock but after, the dipstick didn't have any oil on it. it must've starved. it has 155k miles.
Not to overstate the obvious but did you add oil after checking the level? Sometimes you can get lucky and just topping up to correct level can solve the issue with little or no residual damage.
Old 11-15-2016, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MicVelo
Not to overstate the obvious but did you add oil after checking the level? Sometimes you can get lucky and just topping up to correct level can solve the issue with little or no residual damage.
i didn't, i wasn't sure what viscosity was used before.
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Originally Posted by tarek gabris
i didn't, i wasn't sure what viscosity was used before.
Soooooo, you gonna just let it sit there? Laff.....

In all seriousness, it's almost not going to make a difference what you put in. Bear in mind that any weight oil is going to seek it's nominal viscosity given TEMPERATURE. It will not thin to 5w or increase to 30 unless the car is operated into the temperature extremes; that is freezing weather at 5w or 98 degs at 30. All you need is enough lubrication to get to the oil changer!

Put some 5w-30 (factory recommended for general climates) then drive it to the oil place you were headed to and let them have at it. You're certainly not going to hurt the motor any more with "wrong weight" oil than you may have already done without oil.
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Originally Posted by MicVelo
Soooooo, you gonna just let it sit there? Laff.....

In all seriousness, it's almost not going to make a difference what you put in. Bear in mind that any weight oil is going to seek it's nominal viscosity given TEMPERATURE. It will not thin to 5w or increase to 30 unless the car is operated into the temperature extremes; that is freezing weather at 5w or 98 degs at 30. All you need is enough lubrication to get to the oil changer!

Put some 5w-30 (factory recommended for general climates) then drive it to the oil place you were headed to and let them have at it. You're certainly not going to hurt the motor any more with "wrong weight" oil than you may have already done without oil.
well after my last post i decided to add the oil since it basically has none lol and it worked out, no more knock car running like a champ again.
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now go get it changed!! i would look for oil leaks also
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Originally Posted by tarek gabris
well after my last post i decided to add the oil since it basically has none lol and it worked out, no more knock car running like a champ again.
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now go get it changed!! i would look for oil leaks also
Cool. Now, like Trav said, get it changed with a full load of new oil n' filter and yes, look for leaks. Check around filter, side/top of engine (valve covers are notorious leakers).

Or, is your car an '06? Some of the '06s use oil internally. Not a huge problem if you monitor your oil level at every fill-up but enough to keep a close eye on.
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Originally Posted by MicVelo
Cool. Now, like Trav said, get it changed with a full load of new oil n' filter and yes, look for leaks. Check around filter, side/top of engine (valve covers are notorious leakers).

Or, is your car an '06? Some of the '06s use oil internally. Not a huge problem if you monitor your oil level at every fill-up but enough to keep a close eye on.
No, i have an 04. i put cardboard underneath the engine over night to see if there are any leaks. still haven't checked it.
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if you already established a knock, that means a bearing is no longer between the rod and the crank.. you should immediately drop the pan and inspect oil, shavings, the rod and the bearing.. sometimes you can save the crank, but if you drove on it.. the crank will also be scored, either way.. unless you immediately shut off and are lucky, you are usually looking at a rebuild.




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