350Z places 8th out of 9 Sport Cars tested in Road and Track March 2005 Article.
#1
350Z places 8th out of 9 Sport Cars tested in Road and Track March 2005 Article.
The results:
A. 350Z places 8th of 9 cars test when considering price as an issue. The 350Z placed last if price of car was no object.
B. 350Z had slowest lap time of all cars tested. Steve Millen was driving thus experienced race car driver makes track test valid.
C. The 35th anniv. Edition was used for test. They mentioned it pulled .2 seconds better than 287hp version.
D. The lateral G testing was conducted at Big Willows track. The lateral G’s were measured in 6 sections of the 9 sections of the track. Here are the results:
Section 1: 350Z place 9th
Section 2: 350Z place 8th
Section 3: 350Z place 6th
Section 5: 350Z place 9th
Section 6: 350Z place 9th
Section 8: 350Z place 5th
Ranking of cars overall were:
1. Chevy Corvette ($53,545)
2. Porsche Boxster ($67,520)
3. Porsche Carrera S ($91,560)
4. Lotus Elise ($44,460)
5. Honda S2000 ($33,465)
6. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ($84,495)
7. BMW Z4 3.0i ($48,620)
8. Nissan 350Z 35th Anniv. ($38,640)
9. MB SLK350 ($50,150)
Quickest lap times on the track:
1. Corvette
2. Viper
3. Porsche Carrera
4. Porsche Boxster S
5. Lotus Elise
6. MB SLK350
7. Honda S2000
8. BMW Z4 3.0i
9. Nissan 350Z 35th Edition
The interesting part of this article was the fact that they had a skilled driver running all the cars. The 350Z was competing against some awesome Sport Cars. The performance of all of these cars is outstanding. One way of looking at it is it is an honor to be considered of merit to even be compared to some of these cars costing twice as much.
Nissan outsells all of the cars compared. Some could say the 350Z has brought the sports car back into the automotive spotlight. The question must be asked; Is Nissan willing to improve the 350Z to out perform these cars or simply put that effort into developing the GT-R to do the job. All cars tested were under $100,000 thus cost was considered as a criteria.
Can a $38,000 350Z be compared fairly to a $84,000 Viper or $91,000 Porsche? Maybe not but it is nice they put the 350Z in the test to see how it performs against them.
Hats off to Road and Track Magazine for an informative article.
Jeff
A. 350Z places 8th of 9 cars test when considering price as an issue. The 350Z placed last if price of car was no object.
B. 350Z had slowest lap time of all cars tested. Steve Millen was driving thus experienced race car driver makes track test valid.
C. The 35th anniv. Edition was used for test. They mentioned it pulled .2 seconds better than 287hp version.
D. The lateral G testing was conducted at Big Willows track. The lateral G’s were measured in 6 sections of the 9 sections of the track. Here are the results:
Section 1: 350Z place 9th
Section 2: 350Z place 8th
Section 3: 350Z place 6th
Section 5: 350Z place 9th
Section 6: 350Z place 9th
Section 8: 350Z place 5th
Ranking of cars overall were:
1. Chevy Corvette ($53,545)
2. Porsche Boxster ($67,520)
3. Porsche Carrera S ($91,560)
4. Lotus Elise ($44,460)
5. Honda S2000 ($33,465)
6. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ($84,495)
7. BMW Z4 3.0i ($48,620)
8. Nissan 350Z 35th Anniv. ($38,640)
9. MB SLK350 ($50,150)
Quickest lap times on the track:
1. Corvette
2. Viper
3. Porsche Carrera
4. Porsche Boxster S
5. Lotus Elise
6. MB SLK350
7. Honda S2000
8. BMW Z4 3.0i
9. Nissan 350Z 35th Edition
The interesting part of this article was the fact that they had a skilled driver running all the cars. The 350Z was competing against some awesome Sport Cars. The performance of all of these cars is outstanding. One way of looking at it is it is an honor to be considered of merit to even be compared to some of these cars costing twice as much.
Nissan outsells all of the cars compared. Some could say the 350Z has brought the sports car back into the automotive spotlight. The question must be asked; Is Nissan willing to improve the 350Z to out perform these cars or simply put that effort into developing the GT-R to do the job. All cars tested were under $100,000 thus cost was considered as a criteria.
Can a $38,000 350Z be compared fairly to a $84,000 Viper or $91,000 Porsche? Maybe not but it is nice they put the 350Z in the test to see how it performs against them.
Hats off to Road and Track Magazine for an informative article.
Jeff
Last edited by zland; 01-28-2005 at 06:48 PM.
#3
Originally posted by Amnbex
Now, modify the Z with the amount of money saved (especially with new suspension) and see who wins.
Now, modify the Z with the amount of money saved (especially with new suspension) and see who wins.
The arguement of modifying a cheaper to out perform a stock car that cost more is often used. I am sure Neon owners say the same when comparing their car to our 350Z's. My bet is a Porsche owner does not like his car compared to a 350Z much like we dont like being compared to a Neon. If you draw your logic to its final conclusion, we should all go out and buy a motocycle which will give you the greatest bang for the buck.
I will say this, replacing the stock rubber and adding stiffer sway bars on the Z would do wonders for track tests as previous tests have shown were a 350Z pulled up to .94 lateral G's.
I posted this to give credit to Road and Track for a fine article and to provide some basic data. All of us purchased 350Z's so I think most of you know that I for one, love a Z. The data is just that, you can draw your own conclusions from it.
Last edited by zland; 01-28-2005 at 07:00 PM.
#6
Hmm, maybe it was the extra weight of the 35th -- but this article from R&T finds the car to be a good match against a 911 Targa and an M3 SMG.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1
#7
Strife350z: I am referring to 0-60 times they posted and quoted in their magazine.
Skrill: Yep, that older article inspired me on how well the Z performed. In fact, it had the 2nd best lap time of the 4 cars tested. Vette was 1st, 350Z 2nd, followed by Porsche and M3.
This new test is comparing the 350Z to a newer Vette (C6), Z4 instead of M3, new Porsche as well as other cars not in old R&T article. Maybe the biggest difference is it is not the same track. Another issue maybe is Millen is an experienced driver. The 350Z is commonly referred to as being a forgiving car on the track thus with non-professional drivers, maybe the Z has the advantage over other, less forgiving cars. When you get a professional driver behind the wheel of all cars, the 350Z's ease to drive might not be a critical in track performance.
Skrill: Yep, that older article inspired me on how well the Z performed. In fact, it had the 2nd best lap time of the 4 cars tested. Vette was 1st, 350Z 2nd, followed by Porsche and M3.
This new test is comparing the 350Z to a newer Vette (C6), Z4 instead of M3, new Porsche as well as other cars not in old R&T article. Maybe the biggest difference is it is not the same track. Another issue maybe is Millen is an experienced driver. The 350Z is commonly referred to as being a forgiving car on the track thus with non-professional drivers, maybe the Z has the advantage over other, less forgiving cars. When you get a professional driver behind the wheel of all cars, the 350Z's ease to drive might not be a critical in track performance.
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#9
Weren't both tests run at Big Willow. And a 1:40 at Big Willow for the stock Track Z from the first R&T test tells me the Z was driven by a very experienced and qualified driver.
Originally posted by zland
Strife350z: I am referring to 0-60 times they posted and quoted in their magazine.
Skrill: Yep, that older article inspired me on how well the Z performed. In fact, it had the 2nd best lap time of the 4 cars tested. Vette was 1st, 350Z 2nd, followed by Porsche and M3.
This new test is comparing the 350Z to a newer Vette (C6), Z4 instead of M3, new Porsche as well as other cars not in old R&T article. Maybe the biggest difference is it is not the same track. Another issue maybe is Millen is an experienced driver. The 350Z is commonly referred to as being a forgiving car on the track thus with non-professional drivers, maybe the Z has the advantage over other, less forgiving cars. When you get a professional driver behind the wheel of all cars, the 350Z's ease to drive might not be a critical in track performance.
Strife350z: I am referring to 0-60 times they posted and quoted in their magazine.
Skrill: Yep, that older article inspired me on how well the Z performed. In fact, it had the 2nd best lap time of the 4 cars tested. Vette was 1st, 350Z 2nd, followed by Porsche and M3.
This new test is comparing the 350Z to a newer Vette (C6), Z4 instead of M3, new Porsche as well as other cars not in old R&T article. Maybe the biggest difference is it is not the same track. Another issue maybe is Millen is an experienced driver. The 350Z is commonly referred to as being a forgiving car on the track thus with non-professional drivers, maybe the Z has the advantage over other, less forgiving cars. When you get a professional driver behind the wheel of all cars, the 350Z's ease to drive might not be a critical in track performance.
Last edited by Skrill; 01-28-2005 at 08:29 PM.
#10
Skrill:
I stand corrected, new test was at ButtonWillows not at Big Willows as I posted before. Thanks for making me look at the article again.
BTW, the times for all cars in recent test at BUTTONWILLOWS with Millen driving are:
1. 66.32 Vette
2. 66.60 Viper
3. 66.71 Carrera
4. 67.27 Boxster
5. 68.65 Elise
6. 68.91 SLK
7. 69.88 S2000
8. 70.71 Z4
9. 70.86 350Z
I stand corrected, new test was at ButtonWillows not at Big Willows as I posted before. Thanks for making me look at the article again.
BTW, the times for all cars in recent test at BUTTONWILLOWS with Millen driving are:
1. 66.32 Vette
2. 66.60 Viper
3. 66.71 Carrera
4. 67.27 Boxster
5. 68.65 Elise
6. 68.91 SLK
7. 69.88 S2000
8. 70.71 Z4
9. 70.86 350Z
Last edited by zland; 01-28-2005 at 08:50 PM.
#13
Originally posted by zland
Skrill:
I stand corrected, new test was at ButtonWillows not at Big Willows as I posted before. Thanks for making me look at the article again.
BTW, the times for all cars in recent test at BUTTONWILLOWS with Millen driving are:
1. 66.32 Vette
2. 66.60 Viper
3. 66.71 Carrera
4. 67.27 Boxster
5. 68.65 Elise
6. 68.91 SLK
7. 69.88 S2000
8. 70.71 Z4
9. 70.86 350Z
Skrill:
I stand corrected, new test was at ButtonWillows not at Big Willows as I posted before. Thanks for making me look at the article again.
BTW, the times for all cars in recent test at BUTTONWILLOWS with Millen driving are:
1. 66.32 Vette
2. 66.60 Viper
3. 66.71 Carrera
4. 67.27 Boxster
5. 68.65 Elise
6. 68.91 SLK
7. 69.88 S2000
8. 70.71 Z4
9. 70.86 350Z
#14
Originally posted by Z BOY
i don't mind being the worst of the best. besides, i would take my z over a number of those other, more expensive cars.
i don't mind being the worst of the best. besides, i would take my z over a number of those other, more expensive cars.
#17
Originally posted by Skrill
Hmm -- they must have been driving only a loop of the course. The full course takes me about 2:16 to drive.
Hmm -- they must have been driving only a loop of the course. The full course takes me about 2:16 to drive.
#18
Originally posted by mc350z
what was the offical 0-60 for the 35th?
what was the offical 0-60 for the 35th?
#20
Originally posted by mc350z
.2 seconds than a 04 track 287 hp right?
hell motortrend posts a 5.3 for a 04 track!!!
so that shows you it varies
ive noticed road and track consistantly posts the slowest times
what ws the C6 4.3 or something like that?
.2 seconds than a 04 track 287 hp right?
hell motortrend posts a 5.3 for a 04 track!!!
so that shows you it varies
ive noticed road and track consistantly posts the slowest times
what ws the C6 4.3 or something like that?
Last edited by zland; 01-28-2005 at 11:48 PM.