JmanZ

My mouth hung open for a solid ten seconds after seeing that modded GT-R.

<b>SWEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeT!!!!!</b>

Problem though.... is that all those shots of the Z on the PS 2, are from Gran Turismo CONCEPT TOKYO and it is <b>NOT FOR SALE</b> in North America. It isn't the full Gran Turismo game either, it's 20 new cars that were in the Tokyo auto show, and while it is GREAT, it's not the full game. You can't save them to your garage and then use them in the normal GT3 game (damn it).

Driving wise, I don't know that anyone will ever beat Gran Turismo, they are easily the kings of the hill... but you gotta know now that others have seen how popular the game is, others are going to try.

I mean seriously, all the Gran Turismo series is, is a company with great programmers using the Playstation and later the PS2 to it's full abilities. Right?

So what is stopping a company from doing the same thing with the Xbox? It's more powerful than the PS2 so *technically*, it is very possible. Will it happen? umm.... I hope so but I am not holding my breathe!

Sega Gt 2002 uses a complete different engine than all previous versions, and these shots that aren't that great are not final game shots, as I posted, they are pixely and they haven't been cleaned up yet. I doubt they'll be as tight as the Concept Tokyo but since I can't play Concept Tokyo... and don't read Japanese should I pay an ungodly sum of money to import it, oh wait... it wouldn't work in the North American PS2's unless you modded your PS2 to accept Japanese PS2 games....

ack.. I'll stick with my Xbox.

PS2 has better games right now, more games etc... but all systems suck in their first 6-12 months. Maybe not suck but they pick up speed around year two usually, JUST as the PS2 is doing right now.

I can't wait for it regardless... I'll post screen shots the day I get the game.

wanchong

One thing about the Xbox you have to be careful about is the infamous BLUE SCREEN of DEATH. The Xbox is a PC and it is loaded with some kind of windows derative. So think about purchasing one that will crash eventually and more often!!

If you want an Xbox...might as well purchase a PC and get emulation software...if its not out there yet...it will be!

JmanZ

But... those two Gran Turismo games are not compatible with the North American PS2 boxes. You'd have to buy the mod chip, get it installed and then they'd work.

As for GT4... not sure where you heard it was due out early next year but I hope you're right. I read an interview with the head of Sony's video game department and he said Gran Turismo 4 would launch with the Play Station 3 in mid to late 2003 in Japan, then it'd be released in North America in 2004. He wouldn't go into details about the PS3 but he said they had to advance their plans for release because of the success the Xbox was enjoying in Japan and Europe. They expected the Xbox to bomb.

(Gates could buy Sony without sweating, did this guy really think Gates would launch a video game machine and then have it fail? I hate Gates dearly, but bottom line... he's a geek and geek's don't like to finish last. Sony will NEVER touch the Xbox)

I expect the PS3 to be better than this version of the Xbox, but since the Xbox is upward expandable... I think the Xbox 2 or whatever they call it will kick but again. The machines keep getting better and better... one will always be better than the other for a short time, then they'll trade positions and do it all again.

Either way though, we're the winner!

Myself, if I was Gates... I'd buy the company that licenses the Gran Turismo series for Sony. Without the Gran Tursimo series.... ouch, Sony would not be where it now. I know MANY people (including myself) that bought the PS32 for the very game series.... if it was Xbox, good god... color me happy.

I can dream at least.

-j

JmanZ

I have used my Xbox since day one when they came out... and not once has it even burped, let alone crash. My PS2 though, crashed often. The first batch of PS2's were plauged with problems, ask any dealer that sells them and they'll tell you of returns. Ask about the Xbox now... not one return because of mechanical error.

<b>flawless</b>

The Xbox is a better machine, there isn't one arguement any PS2 fan can use OTHER than the current game catalog. The games for the PS2 are fantastic. I wish i had those games... haha

S'okay though.... I'll take a faster machine with full online broadband play and smoother graphics anyday

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