Which Z coupe model is best for racing etc?
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Originally Posted by del105
Actually let me start over. If I was build ing a track only car I would go 91 mazda miata, Quaife dif, DA konis, rollbar.
I was under the impression that the 1.8L was actually a better engine to mod.
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well brembos are not included in the enthu version, but if some one asked me to trade my stock ones for the stock brembos I'll do it. If the do weight more belive me it is not as much as to make a difference.
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Originally Posted by 16YOWithA350z
i just told you that base is the best wait until you put on the vortech intake you dont need that other stuff. auto is slow because it only has 4 gears dont do that or you will regret it brembo are to heavy slow down thanks
Automatic is maybe .3 seconds slower, and that`s only if you know how to drive a MT PERFECTLY. and it`d 5 speed, not 4, jackass. And even my automatic would beat 99% of Z`s on the road. You`re CAI wont make your car fly, just add a couple horses.
And btw, NAWZZZZ = Nos for n00bs such as yourself, it`s not an exhaust you ****ing idiot.
I`m starting to wonder if this kid is even old enough to drive.
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Originally Posted by 16YOWithA350z
brembo only good for heat tho thanks
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Originally Posted by Sensation350Z
You`re an idiot. Straight up, you know nothing about nothing. None of us are jelous of your low class Z, having a touring model myself with injen exhaust and nismo CAI, my Z would smoke yours to hell.
Automatic is maybe .3 seconds slower, and that`s only if you know how to drive a MT PERFECTLY. and it`d 5 speed, not 4, jackass.
Automatic is maybe .3 seconds slower, and that`s only if you know how to drive a MT PERFECTLY. and it`d 5 speed, not 4, jackass.
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Originally Posted by nightfire
I know convertibles never make as good of track cars but how is the coupe compaired to the convertible?
For the Z however, you are correct, the coupe is better than the vert simply due to weight, although I'm sure a vert (especially a 35th with Brembos) could make a nice track car.
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Originally Posted by Amnbex
Why a '91?
I was under the impression that the 1.8L was actually a better engine to mod.
I was under the impression that the 1.8L was actually a better engine to mod.
Not to get to far off topic but the 91 is the lightest 1.6L I'd just choose it for its cheapness. The 1.8s are much more expensive. There are a million of them for sale for under 3k which is a good price for a car you're probably going to crash into a wall.
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Originally Posted by 16YOWithA350z
auto good for drag stick is less gas money thanks
Oh and have fun with your NAWZZZ exhaust.
****ing idiot, I swear this kid`s like 12 years old.
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Originally Posted by del105
Not to get to far off topic but the 91 is the lightest 1.6L I'd just choose it for its cheapness. The 1.8s are much more expensive. There are a million of them for sale for under 3k which is a good price for a car you're probably going to crash into a wall.
Got a link to a guide for this kind of thing and an estimated price to build a Miata that can be fun and competetive (nothing too crazy, probably staying NA, no complete suspension revisions, etc...)?
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Besides the added weight does the 53/47 weight distribution change in the convertible? What's best for the track: VDC, traction control, both, or neither?
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Originally Posted by Sensation350Z
If you want good gas milage get yourself a civic with that paper route money of yours.
Oh and have fun with your NAWZZZ exhaust.
****ing idiot, I swear this kid`s like 12 years old.
Oh and have fun with your NAWZZZ exhaust.
****ing idiot, I swear this kid`s like 12 years old.
Insecure about your choice?
I'm jus' kidding with you!
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Originally Posted by Sensation350Z
You`re an idiot. Straight up, you know nothing about nothing. None of us are jelous of your low class Z, having a touring model myself with injen exhaust and nismo CAI, my Z would smoke yours to hell.
Automatic is maybe .3 seconds slower, and that`s only if you know how to drive a MT PERFECTLY. and it`d 5 speed, not 4, jackass. And even my automatic would beat 99% of Z`s on the road. You`re CAI wont make your car fly, just add a couple horses.
And btw, NAWZZZZ = Nos for n00bs such as yourself, it`s not an exhaust you ****ing idiot.
I`m starting to wonder if this kid is even old enough to drive.
Automatic is maybe .3 seconds slower, and that`s only if you know how to drive a MT PERFECTLY. and it`d 5 speed, not 4, jackass. And even my automatic would beat 99% of Z`s on the road. You`re CAI wont make your car fly, just add a couple horses.
And btw, NAWZZZZ = Nos for n00bs such as yourself, it`s not an exhaust you ****ing idiot.
I`m starting to wonder if this kid is even old enough to drive.
Amnbex, I clearly said the Brembos are only good for heat resistance. They do not out brake the OEM brakes found on Base to Touring models, that's a fact. And they do not have "the best stopping power bar none" like you said. They're not great brakes and they're just for namesake. You want nice brakes? Try AP Racing carbon disc when it's up to temperature with warm tires, they'll collapse your lungs thanks.
P.S. 6-speed is not the best option for drag cars, look at the high tq/hp cars out there, auto tranny. 6-speed has been taken over on road courses by F1 so only benefit for 6-speed is more driver input (if you want it, it's a benefit) and gas saving.
P.P.S. I will race for pink slips once I get my floor panel fixed and Vortech intake, haha.
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Originally Posted by Amnbex
I've actually been considering picking up a Miata for the summer for AutoX and maybe some track duty.
Got a link to a guide for this kind of thing and an estimated price to build a Miata that can be fun and competetive (nothing too crazy, probably staying NA, no complete suspension revisions, etc...)?
Got a link to a guide for this kind of thing and an estimated price to build a Miata that can be fun and competetive (nothing too crazy, probably staying NA, no complete suspension revisions, etc...)?
http://www.specmiata.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
This is a good general miata forum
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
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Originally Posted by 16YOWithA350z
What is your problem with the Base model? It has the same exact engine and chassis as the Touring and the transmission (if so equipped with manual). They are the same cars, deal with it, only accessories are different. We're not talking about a 323ci and an M3, it's a Z and Z.
Amnbex, I clearly said the Brembos are only good for heat resistance. They do not out brake the OEM brakes found on Base to Touring models, that's a fact. And they do not have "the best stopping power bar none" like you said. They're not great brakes and they're just for namesake. You want nice brakes? Try AP Racing carbon disc when it's up to temperature with warm tires, they'll collapse your lungs. one
P.S. 6-speed is not the best option for drag cars, look at the high tq/hp cars out there, auto tranny. 6-speed has been taken over on round courses by F1 so only benefit for 6-speed is more driver input (if you want it, it's a benefit) and gas saving.
P.P.S. I will race for pink slips once I get my floor panel fixed and Vortech intake, haha.
Amnbex, I clearly said the Brembos are only good for heat resistance. They do not out brake the OEM brakes found on Base to Touring models, that's a fact. And they do not have "the best stopping power bar none" like you said. They're not great brakes and they're just for namesake. You want nice brakes? Try AP Racing carbon disc when it's up to temperature with warm tires, they'll collapse your lungs. one
P.S. 6-speed is not the best option for drag cars, look at the high tq/hp cars out there, auto tranny. 6-speed has been taken over on round courses by F1 so only benefit for 6-speed is more driver input (if you want it, it's a benefit) and gas saving.
P.P.S. I will race for pink slips once I get my floor panel fixed and Vortech intake, haha.
Yes, the Brembos don't outbrake the regular brakes in a single, linear stop, but again, as I said before, a track session isn't just one stop. That's what I meant by the Brembos being the best brakes bar none (I meant available on the Z OEM, sorry, wasn't clear).
6-speed are also cheaper and easier to service... well, until you need that new clutch that is!
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Originally Posted by Amnbex
I've actually been considering picking up a Miata for the summer for AutoX and maybe some track duty.
Got a link to a guide for this kind of thing and an estimated price to build a Miata that can be fun and competetive (nothing too crazy, probably staying NA, no complete suspension revisions, etc...)?
Got a link to a guide for this kind of thing and an estimated price to build a Miata that can be fun and competetive (nothing too crazy, probably staying NA, no complete suspension revisions, etc...)?
http://www.specmiata.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
This is a good general miata forum with everything
http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
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Originally Posted by Amnbex
You seem to get mad whenever someone insults the Auto.
Insecure about your choice?
I'm jus' kidding with you!
Insecure about your choice?
I'm jus' kidding with you!
and 16 year old ***** who has a base Z and is getting NAWZZZ exhaust: your car will be gone once you come upon a supercharged Z or one with a TT kit. Your damn intake isn`t going to do THAT much for you.
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Originally Posted by Sensation350Z
My friend, I was forced into buying an auto. I`m not insecure, just angry with myself.
and 16 year old ***** who has a base Z and is getting NAWZZZ exhaust: your car will be gone once you come upon a supercharged Z or one with a TT kit. Your damn intake isn`t going to do THAT much for you.
and 16 year old ***** who has a base Z and is getting NAWZZZ exhaust: your car will be gone once you come upon a supercharged Z or one with a TT kit. Your damn intake isn`t going to do THAT much for you.
BTW, get off your high horse with your Touring Z. We all have Zs and we all like talking about it with each other. You, for some odd reason, feel the need to have a higher status than the rest, grow up.
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I don`t think my Z is greater than any other Z. Why I don`t like you:
1) look at your sn, you`re just asking to get flamed.
2) nawzzz exhaust? WTF n00b, enough said.
3) you show no respect to anyone, you can referr to your first post in the thread about the washed redline Z with pics
4) you talked **** about that guy`s car, saying it was slow and that your Z would "smoke" it just because you`re getting a little intake.
you say it`s people like me that have degraded my350z members? Newsflash buddy, I`ve been here longer than you. It`s people like YOU, who make this place seem like ****. People come here and see immature, ricer a$$holes like you and stereotype the forum as full of noobs, just because you`ve won the award for #1 n00b of the century.
You say I`M gullible? What was I gullible towards? Who`s the one looking for a NAWZZZ exhaust? Yeah, that`s what I thought.
PS a55hole, you`re sitting there saying you`ll race for slips. I honestly don`t even think you have a Z, or a license, or even a permit for that matter. Have your ***** even dropped yet? Doubtful. Come back in a couple years
EDIT: one more thing that I really think you need to know. NO ONE is jelous of your car. The reason I make fun of it for being a base model is to prove a point. It`s not to make myself seem higher than you in any way, rather just to make you see that I have several more options, leather seats, cruise control, vdc, better sound system, etc. etc. and you don`t have anything other than what`s needed to make the car go.
1) look at your sn, you`re just asking to get flamed.
2) nawzzz exhaust? WTF n00b, enough said.
3) you show no respect to anyone, you can referr to your first post in the thread about the washed redline Z with pics
4) you talked **** about that guy`s car, saying it was slow and that your Z would "smoke" it just because you`re getting a little intake.
you say it`s people like me that have degraded my350z members? Newsflash buddy, I`ve been here longer than you. It`s people like YOU, who make this place seem like ****. People come here and see immature, ricer a$$holes like you and stereotype the forum as full of noobs, just because you`ve won the award for #1 n00b of the century.
You say I`M gullible? What was I gullible towards? Who`s the one looking for a NAWZZZ exhaust? Yeah, that`s what I thought.
PS a55hole, you`re sitting there saying you`ll race for slips. I honestly don`t even think you have a Z, or a license, or even a permit for that matter. Have your ***** even dropped yet? Doubtful. Come back in a couple years
EDIT: one more thing that I really think you need to know. NO ONE is jelous of your car. The reason I make fun of it for being a base model is to prove a point. It`s not to make myself seem higher than you in any way, rather just to make you see that I have several more options, leather seats, cruise control, vdc, better sound system, etc. etc. and you don`t have anything other than what`s needed to make the car go.
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